<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0"><channel><title><![CDATA[SSD vs Old School Spinning Platter]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">I find myself with a spare SSD and an old but faithful external hard drive.<br />
If I want to load a gazillion pictures to either the SSD or Hard Drive.<br />
Which one is the better choice? Short term, long term.</p>
<p dir="auto">I want to make a personal calendar that occupies 1/2 the screen and a scrolling picture viewer that occupies the other half. Pretty simple as MM’s go but the picture drive will see activity 24/7/365</p>
<p dir="auto">I hear stories every day about SSD’s biting the dirt. Admittedly they all seem to be micro-SSD Chips typical of what one burns the Pi OS to and not larger storage based hardware.<br />
Curious about peoples thoughts/experiences.<br />
Both have been long bought and paid for so cost not really in the equation.</p>
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<p dir="auto"><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/ankonaskiff17" aria-label="Profile: ankonaskiff17">@<bdi>ankonaskiff17</bdi></a> so. ssd technology is write once memory.  once that bit is written, it cannot be written again.</p>
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<p dir="auto">Uh, no. The cells that contain the bits do wear out over time, calculated in Total Bytes Written, but they are re-writeable. Writing and rewriting those bits causes wear. And the SSD has some overhead to let you maintain the listed capacity over time. But it is a read/write technology.</p>
<p dir="auto">There are some write-once SSDs on the market, but you have to specifically purchase them. The few that I found are Windows-only.<br />
<a href="https://computer.howstuffworks.com/solid-state-drive.htm" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow ugc">How Solid State Drives Work</a></p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.magicmirror.builders/post/110321</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.magicmirror.builders/post/110321</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[bhepler]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 21 Jul 2023 02:03:49 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to SSD vs Old School Spinning Platter on Wed, 19 Jul 2023 20:18:20 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto"><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/mumblebaj" aria-label="Profile: mumblebaj">@<bdi>mumblebaj</bdi></a>  Not qualified to answer  but will piggyback a comment about an issue that I got into in a year or so back as it relates to these microsd cards.</p>
<p dir="auto">About a year ago I bought a kit from <a href="https://raspberryshake.org/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow ugc">Raspberry Shake</a> and they wanted to sell me a microSD Card that had their logo on it but amounted to an industrial grade microSD Card. I got curious about the cards because they can be significantly higher priced than a consumer grade card.  I came away from that dive down the rabbit hole that they undergo a much more harsh testing/qualification regime than what you would find at your local electronics store.<br />
They are oriented towards industrial applications that might see significant vibration and/or temperature extremes.</p>
<p dir="auto">This is what I bought and for where I have that earthquake detector it is probably extreme overkill but better safe than sorry.</p>
<p dir="auto"><img src="/assets/uploads/files/1689796682770-microsd.jpg" alt="MicroSD.jpg" class=" img-fluid img-markdown" /></p>
<p dir="auto">If you are curious about things Raspberry Pi’s get used for every hexagon on the below picture represents a Pi being used as an earthquake detector.<br />
When the Tonga volcano exploded you could see how tremors traveled, worldwide.</p>
<p dir="auto"><img src="/assets/uploads/files/1689797840688-worldwide.jpg" alt="Worldwide.jpg" class=" img-fluid img-markdown" /></p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.magicmirror.builders/post/110304</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.magicmirror.builders/post/110304</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[ankonaskiff17]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 19 Jul 2023 20:18:20 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to SSD vs Old School Spinning Platter on Wed, 19 Jul 2023 19:39:16 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto"><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/mumblebaj" aria-label="Profile: mumblebaj">@<bdi>mumblebaj</bdi></a> faster the better.</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.magicmirror.builders/post/110303</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.magicmirror.builders/post/110303</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[sdetweil]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 19 Jul 2023 19:39:16 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to SSD vs Old School Spinning Platter on Wed, 19 Jul 2023 19:33:03 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto"><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/ankonaskiff17" aria-label="Profile: ankonaskiff17">@<bdi>ankonaskiff17</bdi></a>  and <a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/sdetweil" aria-label="Profile: sdetweil">@<bdi>sdetweil</bdi></a>  I have a slightly different question. For MicroSD cards, would you recommend the standard C10 or U3 or A2 MicroSD cards?  C10 has minimum of 10mb/s, U3 30mb/s and A2 with a higher rating and then to V90 with a much higher rating of around 170mb/s max. Which would run MM best in your opinion provided RaspberyPi can handle the card type?</p>
<p dir="auto"><img src="/assets/uploads/files/1689795181476-0cd1516b-228e-46f8-9d25-ee3b90535562-image.png" alt="0cd1516b-228e-46f8-9d25-ee3b90535562-image.png" class=" img-fluid img-markdown" /></p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.magicmirror.builders/post/110302</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.magicmirror.builders/post/110302</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[mumblebaj]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 19 Jul 2023 19:33:03 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to SSD vs Old School Spinning Platter on Tue, 18 Jul 2023 23:00:47 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto"><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/sdetweil" aria-label="Profile: sdetweil">@<bdi>sdetweil</bdi></a> Photography must be a hobby.  Smart phone pictures wouldn’t take up that kind of space.</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.magicmirror.builders/post/110299</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.magicmirror.builders/post/110299</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[ankonaskiff17]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2023 23:00:47 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to SSD vs Old School Spinning Platter on Tue, 18 Jul 2023 22:25:10 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto"><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/ankonaskiff17" aria-label="Profile: ankonaskiff17">@<bdi>ankonaskiff17</bdi></a> you’ve got it ok.</p>
<p dir="auto">I have 15000 pics I’ve taken, consuming 2 TB of disk space</p>
<p dir="auto">for me, fewer partitions is better, but on my windows boot I have 18 drive letters…<br />
I have two external drives, one 5tb, one 8tb…</p>
<p dir="auto">but, all drives die…</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.magicmirror.builders/post/110298</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.magicmirror.builders/post/110298</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[sdetweil]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2023 22:25:10 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to SSD vs Old School Spinning Platter on Tue, 18 Jul 2023 22:13:18 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto"><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/sdetweil" aria-label="Profile: sdetweil">@<bdi>sdetweil</bdi></a> So, if you had a 500 GB HDD or a 240 GB SSD which would you use?<br />
Is there some industry standard as far as creating partitions? Size, Drive letter, etc?</p>
<p dir="auto">Now, I don’t have any expectation that I would get anywhere remotely near the capacity of either style storage device with meaningful data in form of  files I want to save so sort of abstract question here.</p>
<p dir="auto">The below is based on all experience being from Windows 3.1—&gt;Windows 11<br />
ZERO Linux until discovery of MM.<br />
In a dusty corner of my brain I seem to recall something about when a computer is up and running it uses a portion of its storage media to put a running program on.  Say you are running a complex Excel spreadsheet, some of that will be in RAM and some will be a chunk of (historically) HDD space.  If I’m way screwed up just say “that ain’t how it works” and I’m fine with that.<br />
BUT, if an SSD only writes once to each block of memory, I could see how that could chew up an SSD’s storage capacity over time</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.magicmirror.builders/post/110296</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.magicmirror.builders/post/110296</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[ankonaskiff17]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2023 22:13:18 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to SSD vs Old School Spinning Platter on Tue, 18 Jul 2023 11:28:38 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto"><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/ankonaskiff17" aria-label="Profile: ankonaskiff17">@<bdi>ankonaskiff17</bdi></a> yes, you can create multiple partitions.</p>
<p dir="auto">Linux doesn’t use drive letters, it’s all one big naming space</p>
<p dir="auto">/ is the root</p>
<p dir="auto">and you can mount other partitions into that space anywhere you want.</p>
<p dir="auto">you use the file /etc/fstab</p>
<p dir="auto">to configure where to mount volumes</p>
<p dir="auto">there are graphical tools for creating the partitions. gparted is the one I use most often</p>
<p dir="auto">if you use gparted to look. at your SD card I think there are 2 partitions</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.magicmirror.builders/post/110292</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.magicmirror.builders/post/110292</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[sdetweil]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2023 11:28:38 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to SSD vs Old School Spinning Platter on Tue, 18 Jul 2023 01:39:52 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto"><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/ankonaskiff17" aria-label="Profile: ankonaskiff17">@<bdi>ankonaskiff17</bdi></a> If I have the big USB drive hard drive or SSD dive I  mentioned earlier in this convo, can I create multiple partitions to mimic multiple drives, a small partition to boot Pi from but subsequently the different partitions would represent say  c;\ , d;\ etc and just store files folders to different (I guess these would be virtual drives) as I desire? Would just be either the SSD or platter which I’m still debating.<br />
SD Card slot underneath would just be empty</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.magicmirror.builders/post/110289</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.magicmirror.builders/post/110289</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[ankonaskiff17]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2023 01:39:52 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to SSD vs Old School Spinning Platter on Thu, 13 Jul 2023 01:41:02 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto"><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/ankonaskiff17" aria-label="Profile: ankonaskiff17">@<bdi>ankonaskiff17</bdi></a> boot from SD card</p>
<p dir="auto">put swap etc on SSD</p>
<p dir="auto">now there is a tricky way (which I’m doing) which replaces the drive UUID in /etc/fstab</p>
<p dir="auto">and poof you are running exact same code/ file system layout from ssd.</p>
<p dir="auto">or nowadays you can USB boot the SSD directly<br />
no SD card involved</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.magicmirror.builders/post/110222</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.magicmirror.builders/post/110222</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[sdetweil]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 13 Jul 2023 01:41:02 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to SSD vs Old School Spinning Platter on Thu, 13 Jul 2023 01:20:36 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto"><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/sdetweil" aria-label="Profile: sdetweil">@<bdi>sdetweil</bdi></a> I’m not going to lie and say “My thoughts exactly” but I have a much better understanding now of the how and why.<br />
So, boot from SSD that is plugged in to bottom of Pi but to minimizes writes to that card, have a jumbo drive to store your work on.</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.magicmirror.builders/post/110221</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.magicmirror.builders/post/110221</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[ankonaskiff17]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 13 Jul 2023 01:20:36 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to SSD vs Old School Spinning Platter on Thu, 13 Jul 2023 12:14:19 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto"><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/ankonaskiff17" aria-label="Profile: ankonaskiff17">@<bdi>ankonaskiff17</bdi></a> so. ssd technology is write once memory.  once that bit is written, it cannot be written again.</p>
<p dir="auto">so ssd’s have a limit. TxW</p>
<p dir="auto">total x written</p>
<p dir="auto">my 2 terabyte M2 SSD has a 3000 TBW, terabytes written limit or 5 years which ever comes first</p>
<p dir="auto">it’s a combination of size and activity.</p>
<p dir="auto">now, the bad part.  the OS does not know about this limit, and the cards cannot tell the OS there is no more room…   so the os happily writes, thinking the data was saved…  oops…   then things get nutty.</p>
<p dir="auto">lots of reads are ok.</p>
<p dir="auto">SD cards are pretty small</p>
<p dir="auto">booting an sd card, and writing a lot (paging due to low memory, writing lots of logs,… ). will eat up the txb. limit pretty quick… months…</p>
<p dir="auto">I boot my pi off SD card, but run off a 1 tb ssd drive… it’s faster too.  this before USB boot.</p>
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