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      Ivanov_d
      last edited by Ivanov_d

      First things first. It all started 2 years ago when I started building a smart home system based on Home Assistant. The next logical step for me was a smart bathroom mirror that would display my calendar, commute to work information, weather info and sensor info from my smart home.

      I had all the needed hardware - 24"LCD, Raspberry Pi 3b+ and etc.

      I wanted a frameless mirror as it looked more slick, modern and professional.

      I decided to go with the mirror that Goldjunge_Chriz offered as it had a lot of positive reviews on the forum albeit being more expensive.

      The setup is the following:

      • 80x73 cm two-way mirror (I was the unlucky winner who got a broken mirror by the courier, but that’s another story. I managed to glue it just for the sake of testing. I found a mirror company here in Bulgaria that offers a better and cheaper alternative but I will share more details on that later)
      • 24" LCD monitor
      • WRGB LED strip behind the mirror, controlled by H801 Wi-Fi controller integrated with Home Assistant
      • PS3 eye camera behind the mirror which is responsible for face recognition and voice commands
      • External motion sensor turns on the mirror and switches it off after there is no motion detected (Home Assistant automation)
      • The WRGB LED is controlled by Home Assistant

      The frame:

      • Built out of 50x50 mm Г-shaped aluminum profiles, welded together
      • On the back of the mirror there is a non-transparent foil cut to the dimensions of the monitor
      • The frame is glued to the mirror through the foil

      Some pictures of the back of the mirror before it is installed:
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      Videos of the mirror in action:
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eljzwpAeAdM
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNTWafM9NF4

      Considerations:

      • The mirror is too dark … it is not suitable for rooms with no natural light. I will be testing another mirror at a later stage and will come back with the results, but this one is definitely not going to serve as a normal mirror in your bathroom.
      • You have to stick something to the back of the mirror (e.g. non-transperant foil, wood panel or something else, otherwise you will be able to see through)
      • If you can afford it (I can’t at the moment) go for an OLED monitor/TV - the LCD backlight is seen through the mirror and while it is not that bad I am perfectionist and it bothers me :D
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        adrian.k
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        Looking very good! I also have an issue with a dark mirror, but placed mine in the living room where there are more natural light.

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          Fa
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          Hello !
          it’s great
          could you please detail your used modules please

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            Ivanov_d
            last edited by

            Sure.

            Currently I am using:

            • MMM-MyCalendar
            • MMM-DarkSkyForecast
            • MMM-homeassistant-sensors
            • MMM-Spotify
            • MMM-GoogleAssistant
            • MMM-GoogleBirthdaysProvider
            • MMM-MyCommute
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              InternetPolice
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              Thanks for the link to your topic @Ivanov_d . What foil did you use (link amazon) and what glue?

              Now I am concerned about the dark mirror, because I ordered a huge one from Chris. It was planned as Bathroom mirror, based on a clear picture of him and a youtube video where somebody set up his own AI.

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                Ivanov_d @InternetPolice
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                @internetpolice you can use any foil, I used the cheapest PVC foil.
                A piece of advice - I thought that white foil would add additional reflection to the mirror and make it brighter, but it didn’t and I swapped it with black foil - it is much better.

                The glue that I used is this one:
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                However, since you will be gluing it to the PVC foil and not to the mirror directly, you could use any silicone.

                Since as I mentioned in the start of my thread the mirror, I received from Chris was damaged during transit, I bought a new one from a company in Bulgaria which is much better and cheaper (which I hope to soon offer here on the forum) and when I was removing the old mirror from the frame … man, it was strong … I broke the mirror in multiple places as I was cutting the silicone, so you should not worry about the mirror not sticking, it is not that heavy as the mirror is thin.

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                  InternetPolice @Ivanov_d
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                  @ivanov_d Thanks for the details.

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                    tomster @Ivanov_d
                    last edited by tomster

                    @ivanov_d said in Borderless bathroom mirror:

                    • If you can afford it (I can’t at the moment) go for an OLED monitor/TV - the LCD backlight is seen through the mirror and while it is not that bad I am perfectionist and it bothers me :D

                    I haven’t tried an OLED Display yet, mainly because they are not available (at a decent price) in 27"/32" yet. But I would assume there’d be a noticeable amount of burn-in/ghosting due to our 99.7% static content. Especially when you turn up brightness to the extent necessary to compensate for a “dark” (=low transmission) mirror.
                    BTW, I can second the “dark feel” on Chriz’ mirrors. My bathroom isn’t exactly what I’d call dark but the mirror still won’t give you a feel like a real mirror.

                    My next go will be for a VA-panel display. They’re said to have a quite decent contrast ratio and seem to have a “blacker” black than IPS panels .
                    I am right in the middle of putting a ~600x1800mm mirror on the cupboard in our hallway. This time I’ll be opting for a Mirroview mirror with 25/60% transmission/reflection in hope of a more realistic mirror feel. The display will be a Viewsonic VX3267-4K. keep fingers crossed

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                      Ivanov_d @tomster
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                      @tomster in my case I hope that burn-in won’t be an issue, since the display is ON for only few minutes, when I am in front of the mirror, then it goes into sleep, but as you said it is not yet mass produced in the size that I need for my project and the niche products cost a lot.

                      Just FYI, this is the mirror that I am using now and it is a bit better that the previous one that I used and a lot cheaper: https://forum.magicmirror.builders/topic/15553/new-2-way-mirror-supplier-lower-prices-and-lead-times?_=1632237048367

                      In natural light you can’t tell that this is not a regular mirror and in dim conditions it is perfectly usable as a mirror, for example I shave in front of it even with only my ambient lights on. When I turn on all lights it looks the same as regular mirror it terms of reflection.

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                        tomster @Ivanov_d
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                        @ivanov_d Your mirror seems like a good alternative. Do you have a picture/video of it?

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