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New 2-way mirror supplier - low prices and lead times
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Hi all!
Let me introduce myself. My name is Denis and I’ve been a MagicMirror enthusiast like most of you since 2018.
Since then, I’ve been searching for the perfect mirror for my project. I’ve tried everything:- two glasses with reflective foil between them - too heavy
- spy mirror - too dark
- a mirror that is offered here on the forum from a known member was my last try and it somehow met my expectations, except for the price
I feel that the price is quite steep for the enthusiasts and it is slowing down the adoption of this cool tech.
Since the mirror that I last used was broken during transit I used it as a proof of concept for few months and started looking for a cheaper alternative and I finally found it.
The properties of the mirror are:
- 4 mm thickness
- 60/40 reflectiveness/light pass-thru which in my opinion works perfectly if the mirror is positioned in a place with natural light, however, my mirror is in the bathroom with no natural light. I found it usable in dim light conditions and perfectly usable in well-lit artificial light conditions. I will post two 4K/60fps videos later.
- It is the same weight as the other well-recognized mirror offered here on the forum and it is perfect for frameless designs (as mine)
The price is 449 euro/sq. m. and it includes: (last price update 24.04.2023)
- 4 mm thick 2-way mirror
- Polished edges (no additional cost for polishing the edges)
- Laser cut foil pre-applied as per your design (no more additional cardboard or wood board to worry about when building your mirror)
- The mirror can be glued to a frame with any glue/silicon due to the pre-applied foil for achieving a borderless design
Shipping:
The shipping will be calculated on case per case basis so that you can get the best price. The other mirrors offered here on the forum have a flat shipping rate which is unfair as a mirror with size 30x30 has the same shipping costs as mirror 80x80 for example. I want to avoid that. All shipping costs will be fair and individual.Another point:
The lead time is two weeks and there is no minimum order.Here is a topic for my borderless setup: https://forum.magicmirror.builders/topic/14048/borderless-bathroom-mirror?_=1632049363086 (please note that the mirror there is another one that is offered here on the forum, the one I am offering looks better in my opinion)
I will post videos of the mirror in action in poor lighting conditions (my bathroom with no natural light) later.
I am open to any questions and another perk for the first three orders is that I will cover 50% of the shipping costs. UPDATE 08-12-2021: I have already shipped 3 orders; therefore the perk is no longer valid, however, the shipping cost is very reasonable IMHO.
In order to keep the price low for you, I would also accept payment through Revolut or through SEPA wire transfer which should have zero cost to you in most EU states.
NOTE 1: There might be +/- 1 mm tolerance in the mirror size
NOTE 2: When sending the foil drawing, please point out from which side you are viewing the drawing - in front of the mirror or looking at it from the back (e.g. mirrored or not). That is very important especially for assymethrical shapes.
NOTE 3 (update 05.07.2023): The shipping company that I used to ship the mirrors got fully acquired by DPD and they changed their international shipping policy, now they won’t accept packages longer than 175 cm, therefore, the mirrors that I can ship cannot be over 165 cm due to the padding. I sent a 170 cm long mirror recently, however, I had to compromise the side padding, fortunately it arrived at the destination in one piece but it was a compromise that I don’t want to make anymore. I could use other companies, but their prices are x2 higher and I want to keep the cost to a minimum so more people can build their projects.Update 24.04.2023:
I am updating the price since I haven’t done so in two years and the prices have soared, unfortunately. The new price is 449 euro/sq. m.Update 13.07.2023: I have decided that all money that I make from these mirrors (not just the profit - ALL MONEY) will go to different donations. So far, I have donated to three different campaigns for children with cancer.
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@ivanov_d Do you have info on the coating used? Is it also “metallic”? I’m just asking because if so, there is no way to put a PCAP-touchfoil behind it…
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Hi @tomster. I am not really aware of the coating used. I could ask, but I am not sure if they will tell me. Is there a way I could test it myself? Maybe with a multimeter, touching the back of the mirror seeing if it conducts electricity?
I don’t have a touch foil with me to test it out as I am a fan of no-fingerprint surfaces and the mirrors are definitely not such :D
I rely on voice control as it is linked to my Home Assistant instance and I can command my whole house with voice via MMM-GoogleAssistant.
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Here is a video, demonstrating the three types of lightning I have in my bathroom: backlight from the mirror frame, ambient lights and main ceiling lights https://youtu.be/wqJNxCwOmck
To be honest I almost never use the main ceiling lights - only when I am thoroughly cleaning the bathroom, most of the time I use only the backlight from the mirror frame or the ambient lightning as that is enough for me.
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@ivanov_d
The mirror looks quite nice from the video. Still a bit “dark” though.
I guess I have to learn to cope with the fact a 2-way-mirror simply not being as good as a regular mirror when it comes to “mirroring” ;-) -
@tomster I guess the only solution to achieve a regular mirror reflection is to have a custom-built mirror where only the area in front of the display is 2-way mirror and the rest is a regular mirror coating, but I can’t imagine how much would that cost :D
I am happy with my mirror now and so is my girlfriend. It is better than the other mirror that I ordered here on the forum and it is much cheaper so I decided to share that with everyone. I barely make any profit out of this since I have a well-paid full-time job and I am doing this for the community since I gathered a lot of knowledge from here throughout the years and I decided to give something back in return.
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@ivanov_d Hey Ivanov
That sounds very interesting, how much do you think shipping to Denmark would be, and what is the minimum price, I mean 299 €/m2, if I only get a 50cmx50cm it’s only 1/4 of that, so is there a minimum price for smaller mirrors?
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@fribse There is no minimum price or order. Whatever you need, I will provide :)
50x50 cm would be 74,75 EUR and the shipping to Denmark would be 30 EUR by Bulgarian Post (delivery time up to 7 days) or 35 EUR by DPD (delivery time 3-5 days) -
You have a picture from daylight? AS well a comparission to Chriz mirror would be good at daylight.
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@internetpolice Yeah I could do that, if you don’t mind the fact that Chriz is partly broken :) I will try to post some pictures later.
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@ivanov_d No worrys. I want to see if the reflection is better.
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Hi,
could you tell how much will cost for a 50x40 cm to ship to Italy?
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@ernade said in New 2-way mirror supplier - lower prices and lead times:
Hi,
could you tell how much will cost for a 50x40 cm to ship to Italy?
The price would be 59,80 EUR for the mirror and you can choose the shipping method:
- Option 1 - Bulgarian Posts - 33,21 EUR
- Option 2 - DPD - 39,49 EUR
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Denis,
do you also ship samples?
Greetings,
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@tomster I will try to get some samples but I can’t promise anything.
@InternetPolice Sorry for the long wait for the mirror comparison pictures, but my setup is quite big for a single person to handle so I have to wait for some help to get it off the wall, unhook the power, take it to a bright spot with natural light, put the mirrors next to each other and take some good photos from all angles.
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@ivanov_d Don´t hesitate. Keep the mirror in one peace if it getting critical for you.
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@internetpolice here is the video that I promised https://youtu.be/IN2Kyfa8_Qc I recorded it at 4K/50p so it should be rich in detail.
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@ivanov_d
Thanx for the video, Denis. Looking good!
Are you sure your mirror is 40% transmission? From the video it looks way less… -
@tomster I am sure. It looks like this because I haven’t dismantled the monitor from the back so the light is not passing through all the way and actually the foil on the back is black, not white as the one used previously. The results IMHO are way better and closer to the look of a real mirror as you can see from the video.
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@ivanov_d said in New 2-way mirror supplier - lower prices and lead times:
…because I haven’t dismantled the monitor from the back…
OK, that sounds reasonable. Thank you for clarifying.
If you get the chance to come-by a sample (e.g. 100x100mm) , I’d be happy to order (=pay for) one of those.
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