Read the statement by Michael Teeuw here.
New 2-way mirror supplier - lower prices and lead times
Let me introduce myself. My name is Denis and I’ve been a MagicMirror enthusiast like most of you since 2018.
Since then, I’ve been searching for the perfect mirror for my project. I’ve tried everything:
- two glasses with reflective foil between them - too heavy
- spy mirror - too dark
- a mirror that is offered here on the forum from a known member was my last try and it somehow met my expectations, except for the price
I feel that the price is quite steep for the enthusiasts and it is slowing down the adoption of this cool tech.
Since the mirror that I last used was broken during transit I used it as a proof of concept for few months and started looking for a cheaper alternative and I finally found it.
The properties of the mirror are:
- 4 mm thickness
- 60/40 reflectiveness/light pass-thru which in my opinion works perfectly if the mirror is positioned in a place with natural light, however, my mirror is in the bathroom with no natural light. I found it usable in dim light conditions and perfectly usable in well-lit artificial light conditions. I will post two 4K/60fps videos later.
- It is the same weight as the other well-recognized mirror offered here on the forum and it is perfect for frameless designs (as mine)
The price is 449 euro/sq. m. and it includes: (last price update 24.04.2023)
- 4 mm thick 2-way mirror
- Polished edges (no additional cost for polishing the edges)
- Laser cut foil pre-applied as per your design (no more additional cardboard or wood board to worry about when building your mirror)
- The mirror can be glued to a frame with any glue/silicon due to the pre-applied foil for achieving a borderless design
The shipping will be calculated on case per case basis so that you can get the best price. The other mirrors offered here on the forum have a flat shipping rate which is unfair as a mirror with size 30x30 has the same shipping costs as mirror 80x80 for example. I want to avoid that. All shipping costs will be fair and individual.
The lead time is two weeks and there is no minimum order.
Here is a topic for my borderless setup: https://forum.magicmirror.builders/topic/14048/borderless-bathroom-mirror?_=1632049363086 (please note that the mirror there is another one that is offered here on the forum, the one I am offering looks better in my opinion)
I will post videos of the mirror in action in poor lighting conditions (my bathroom with no natural light) later.
I am open to any questions and another perk for the first three orders is that I will cover 50% of the shipping costs. UPDATE 08-12-2021: I have already shipped 3 orders; therefore the perk is no longer valid, however, the shipping cost is very reasonable IMHO.
In order to keep the price low for you, I would also accept payment through Revolut or through SEPA wire transfer which should have zero cost to you in most EU states.
NOTE 1: There might be +/- 1 mm tolerance in the mirror size
NOTE 2: When sending the foil drawing, please point out from which side you are viewing the drawing - in front of the mirror or looking at it from the back (e.g. mirrored or not). That is very important especially for assymethrical shapes.
NOTE 3 (update 05.07.2023): The shipping company that I used to ship the mirrors got fully acquired by DPD and they changed their international shipping policy, now they won’t accept packages longer than 175 cm, therefore, the mirrors that I can ship cannot be over 165 cm due to the padding. I sent a 170 cm long mirror recently, however, I had to compromise the side padding, fortunately it arrived at the destination in one piece but it was a compromise that I don’t want to make anymore. I could use other companies, but their prices are x2 higher and I want to keep the cost to a minimum so more people can build their projects.
I am updating the price since I haven’t done so in two years and the prices have soared, unfortunately. The new price is 449 euro/sq. m.
Update 13.07.2023: I have decided that all money that I make from these mirrors (not just the profit - ALL MONEY) will go to different donations. So far, I have donated to three different campaigns for children with cancer.
@ivanov_d Do you have info on the coating used? Is it also “metallic”? I’m just asking because if so, there is no way to put a PCAP-touchfoil behind it…
Hi @tomster. I am not really aware of the coating used. I could ask, but I am not sure if they will tell me. Is there a way I could test it myself? Maybe with a multimeter, touching the back of the mirror seeing if it conducts electricity?
I don’t have a touch foil with me to test it out as I am a fan of no-fingerprint surfaces and the mirrors are definitely not such
I rely on voice control as it is linked to my Home Assistant instance and I can command my whole house with voice via MMM-GoogleAssistant.
Here is a video, demonstrating the three types of lightning I have in my bathroom: backlight from the mirror frame, ambient lights and main ceiling lights https://youtu.be/wqJNxCwOmck
To be honest I almost never use the main ceiling lights - only when I am thoroughly cleaning the bathroom, most of the time I use only the backlight from the mirror frame or the ambient lightning as that is enough for me.
The mirror looks quite nice from the video. Still a bit “dark” though.
I guess I have to learn to cope with the fact a 2-way-mirror simply not being as good as a regular mirror when it comes to “mirroring”
@tomster I guess the only solution to achieve a regular mirror reflection is to have a custom-built mirror where only the area in front of the display is 2-way mirror and the rest is a regular mirror coating, but I can’t imagine how much would that cost
I am happy with my mirror now and so is my girlfriend. It is better than the other mirror that I ordered here on the forum and it is much cheaper so I decided to share that with everyone. I barely make any profit out of this since I have a well-paid full-time job and I am doing this for the community since I gathered a lot of knowledge from here throughout the years and I decided to give something back in return.
@ivanov_d Hey Ivanov
That sounds very interesting, how much do you think shipping to Denmark would be, and what is the minimum price, I mean 299 €/m2, if I only get a 50cmx50cm it’s only 1/4 of that, so is there a minimum price for smaller mirrors?
And where do they ship from inside/outside of EU?
@fribse There is no minimum price or order. Whatever you need, I will provide
50x50 cm would be 74,75 EUR and the shipping to Denmark would be 30 EUR by Bulgarian Post (delivery time up to 7 days) or 35 EUR by DPD (delivery time 3-5 days)
You have a picture from daylight? AS well a comparission to Chriz mirror would be good at daylight.
@internetpolice Yeah I could do that, if you don’t mind the fact that Chriz is partly broken I will try to post some pictures later.