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    Every few hours I get "ERROR:network_service_instance_impl.cc(916)] Network service crashed, restarting service"

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      sdetweil @TvE
      last edited by

      @tve yeh, sorry on debug. lots of calendar stuff

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        TvE @sdetweil
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        @sdetweil Don’t worry about “debug” I just had to read the config in stead of skipping over that part

        I have now reverted to my original config and will enable the different service in bisect style.

        /*
        TvE test log (on legacy OS)
        Re-configured services resulting in crash:
          1 calendar
          2 openweather_current
          3 openweather_forecast
          4 news
        
        A: Sample config
            => 11h and still OK
        
        B: Enable DEBUG log level
        
        C: Disable 2+3 (openweather) Enable 1+4
            => 14 h and still OK
        
        D: Enable 2+3 (openweather) + disable 1+4 (news & calendar)
            => ongoing
        */
        

        So in a few days I should know what’s triggering the issue…

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          TvE @TvE
          last edited by

          Hmm so my latest config ran for more than 2 days.

          I’m now reverting to the initial config (enabling all four config-changes) and then time will tell

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            TvE @TvE
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            @sdetweil This is really getting intersting - I have now re-enabled all the config changes so I’m back to my initial config and have been running for four days without a problem.

            I even reproduced the problem on two differerent physical Pi’s (to eliminate HW) before starting to dissect the config…

            So for now I can only conclude that something external was triggering these crashes!

            I can now go back to the latest OS and start adding more stuff to my config (and keep my fingers crossed that I no longer encounter what-ever it was…)

            Thank you for your help!

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              sdetweil @TvE
              last edited by

              @tve interesting. keep us informed…

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                thgmirror
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                @TvE Do you use some wires at the GPIO? For example a PIR-sensor? Than may be interferences causes the issue when an electronic device is around your PI.

                Or it is the temperature? Check it with
                vcgencmd measure_temp

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                  TvE @thgmirror
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                  @sdetweil Will do!

                  @thgmirror Nope no PIR sensor (as in “not yet”)
                  My setup is as basic “Hello World!” as it can be (IMHO)
                  (The full config can be seen - as a diff to the sample - earlier in this thread)

                  The pi have been placed horisontally on my desk during all this testing.
                  It is in a cabinet though (the one from the “startet kit”).

                  I have measured the temperature (with my hand) and not been alarmed
                  Now I can validate my assumption based on your tip, thanx!

                  pi@mirror:~ $ vcgencmd measure_temp
                  temp=63.4'C
                  

                  I have read that it’s possible to get add a cooling fin to the CPU, which is something I’ll look in to later (as I am also working on making a replacement for this guy, an image grabber [1].
                  You can no longer purchase it (and I can make more captures pr second on my pi) for 1/2 the price, I only need to add this thingy [2]
                  I have HelloWorld! for this, I “just” need to add

                  • Capture to RAM disk in stead of USB
                  • Auto upload to an ftp share (or maybe change this to scp…)
                  • Maybe get the pi’s to netboot as well (as I need 10+ of the system)

                  But that’s completely irellevant to my MM problem ;-)

                  [1 ]https://www.epiphan.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/epiphan-vga2ethernet-brochure.pdf
                  [2] https://www.epiphan.com/products/avio-4k/

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                    thgmirror @TvE
                    last edited by thgmirror

                    @tve 63.4 C? Could be less!
                    You can generate a simple protocol by using
                    crontab -e and enter

                    @reboot echo “---------- start ----------” >> proto.txt
                    */5 * * * * date >> proto.txt
                    1-56/5 * * * * vcgencmd measure_temp >> proto.txt

                    which will write a timestamp and a celsius amount every 5 minutes…and an eyecatcher at every boot. Look after a while into the file.

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                      TvE @thgmirror
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                      @thgmirror A cron based measuring is a good approach I’ll keep that in mind if I start to suspect temperature (or when I perform a load test my grabber-PI).

                      For now I do not think it can be temperature related as it’s very reliable around 60 degrees centigrade

                      pi@mirror:~ $ vcgencmd measure_temp
                      temp=59.6'C
                      
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                        sdetweil @TvE
                        last edited by

                        @tve but see his post

                        https://forum.magicmirror.builders/topic/16485/temperature-of-a-rpi3

                        60 is bad if u can do 30!

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                          TvE @sdetweil
                          last edited by

                          @sdetweil said in Every few hours I get "ERROR:network_service_instance_impl.cc(916)] Network service crashed, restarting service":

                          @tve but see his post

                          https://forum.magicmirror.builders/topic/16485/temperature-of-a-rpi3

                          60 is bad if u can do 30!

                          Great post(!)

                          (And here I thought that 60 was the normal/expected working temperature)

                          I think I’ll add a passive solution (or maybe even an active - but then there is a fan that will die)
                          (I have some other - rather expensive - equipment that died due to a dead fan, and unfortunately there was no way to measure the temperature - bad design…)

                          I see these two obvious options:

                          • https://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/raspberry-pi-hats-add-ons/8679039
                          • https://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/raspberry-pi-hats-add-ons/2020449

                          The active solution might even add enough cooling even when the fan dies (as it seems that there is a passive “path for the heat” from the CPU
                          I should try both :-)

                          What is to gain?:
                          I am aware that the warmer the chip the shorter it’s life
                          (I have complained to a vendor that one of their products got so warm that I burn myself if I touch the enclosure, but they insist that it’s expected - even though I have had to get at least three of my nine devices replaced!
                          I think it’s due to a bad design - hence my heat complaint…)

                          The rule of thumb is something like this:

                          By increasing the device temperature by just 10°C, we have reduced the lifetime by over 2x

                          Sources:
                          https://jetcool.com/post/semiconductor-lifetime-how-temperature-affects-mean-time-to-failure-device-reliability/

                          https://www.electronics-cooling.com/2017/08/10c-increase-temperature-really-reduce-life-electronics-half/#:~:text=If one were to ask,reduces component life by half”.

                          BTW: I have not seen any more network-service-instance-crashes, it’s still going strong after 8 days, really weird (but good!)…

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                            TvE @thgmirror
                            last edited by

                            @thgmirror

                            63.4 C? Could be less!

                            I have now added one of these [1] to my RPI 3 and returned it to the enclosure (the “starter kit cabinet”).

                            The temperature is now 48-49 degrees centigrade after 30 min usage of MM.
                            So it reduces the temperature with ~14K - thats nice (if you don’t mind listening to a spinning fan which is actually fairly loud in at least 2 meters distance)…!

                            I’ll try passive cooling later…

                            Oh! - and I had a 14 day uptime before powering off (the original reason for this thread :-)

                            [1] https://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/raspberry-pi-hats-add-ons/2020449

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                              sdetweil @TvE
                              last edited by

                              @TvE said in Every few hours I get "ERROR:network_service_instance_impl.cc(916)] Network service crashed, restarting service":

                              Oh! - and I had a 14 day uptime before powering off (the original reason for this thread

                              nice!!

                              Sam

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                                TvE @sdetweil
                                last edited by

                                @sdetweil Yeah - that’s perfect (and expected)
                                I really have (now stopped) wondering what happened initially :-)

                                @thgmirror
                                I made a quick test where I have removed the power to the fan to see how much that changes the temperature (aka a passive cooling test).

                                • After ca. one hour the temperature rises to a max of 57-58 degrees centigrades
                                • For the next hour the temperature is not rising any more
                                • Thus a reduction of ~6K

                                NB.: I have now removed the lid to see how big (small) a difference that makes

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                                  TvE @TvE
                                  last edited by TvE

                                  So - without the lid I get another 2K as - after 15 min - the temperature stabilized around 54-55 degrees centigrades

                                  * Passive cooling lid  on : 63 -> 58 =  -5
                                  * Passive cooling lid off : 63 -> 55 =  -8
                                  * Active  cooling lid  on : 63 -> 49 = -14
                                  * Active  cooling lid off : 63 -> 42 = -21
                                  
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                                    Ivanov_d
                                    last edited by Ivanov_d

                                    @TvE I am in the same spot as you.

                                    Raspberry Pi 3b+
                                    Fresh installed Raspbian Bullseye 11
                                    Fresh install of MM with vanilla config and modules - crashes every minute and restarts itself. Are you saying that the config might be the problem?

                                    0|MagicMirror  | Launching application.
                                    0|MagicMirror  | [18725:0322/102613.376542:ERROR:viz_main_impl.cc(161)] Exiting GPU process due to errors during initialization
                                    0|MagicMirror  | [18766:0322/102613.700219:ERROR:sandbox_linux.cc(376)] InitializeSandbox() called with multiple threads in process gpu-process.
                                    0|MagicMirror  | [22.03.2022 10:26.16.088] [LOG]   
                                    0|MagicMirror  | Create new calendarfetcher for url: http://www.calendarlabs.com/ical-calendar/ics/76/US_Holidays.ics - Interval: 300000
                                    0|MagicMirror  | [22.03.2022 10:26.16.175] [LOG]   
                                    0|MagicMirror  | Create new newsfetcher for url: https://rss.nytimes.com/services/xml/rss/nyt/HomePage.xml - Interval: 300000
                                    0|MagicMirror  | [22.03.2022 10:26.16.248] [INFO]  
                                    0|MagicMirror  | Checking git for module: default
                                    0|MagicMirror  | [22.03.2022 10:26.17.014] [INFO]  
                                    0|MagicMirror  | Newsfeed-Fetcher: Broadcasting 61 items.
                                    0|MagicMirror  | [22.03.2022 10:26.17.522] [INFO]  
                                    0|MagicMirror  | Calendar-Fetcher: Broadcasting 10 events.
                                    0|MagicMirror  | [22.03.2022 10:27.33.823] [LOG]   Shutting down server...
                                    0|MagicMirror  | [22.03.2022 10:27.33.833] [LOG]   Stopping module helper: updatenotification
                                    0|MagicMirror  | [22.03.2022 10:27.33.835] [LOG]   Stopping module helper: calendar
                                    0|MagicMirror  | [22.03.2022 10:27.33.848] [LOG]   Stopping module helper: newsfeed
                                    0|MagicMirror  | [18692:0322/102733.909781:ERROR:zygote_communication_linux.cc(276)] Failed to send GetTerminationStatus message to zygote
                                    0|MagicMirror  | [18692:0322/102733.942607:ERROR:zygote_communication_linux.cc(276)] Failed to send GetTerminationStatus message to zygote
                                    0|MagicMirror  | [18692:0322/102733.958362:ERROR:network_service_instance_impl.cc(916)] Network service crashed, restarting service.
                                    0|MagicMirror  | [18692:0322/102733.974458:ERROR:gpu_process_host.cc(962)] GPU process launch failed: error_code=1002
                                    0|MagicMirror  | [18692:0322/102733.982862:ERROR:gpu_process_host.cc(962)] GPU process launch failed: error_code=1002
                                    0|MagicMirror  | [18692:0322/102733.989821:ERROR:gpu_process_host.cc(962)] GPU process launch failed: error_code=1002
                                    0|MagicMirror  | [18692:0322/102733.998527:ERROR:gpu_process_host.cc(962)] GPU process launch failed: error_code=1002
                                    0|MagicMirror  | > magicmirror@2.18.0 start
                                    0|MagicMirror  | > DISPLAY="${DISPLAY:=:0}" ./node_modules/.bin/electron js/electron.js
                                    0|MagicMirror  | [22.03.2022 10:27.42.385] [LOG]   
                                    0|MagicMirror  | Starting MagicMirror: v2.18.0
                                    0|MagicMirror  | [22.03.2022 10:27.42.407] [LOG]   
                                    0|MagicMirror  | Loading config ...
                                    0|MagicMirror  | [22.03.2022 10:27.42.421] [LOG]   
                                    0|MagicMirror  | Loading module helpers ...
                                    0|MagicMirror  | [22.03.2022 10:27.42.427] [LOG]   
                                    0|MagicMirror  | No helper found for module: alert.
                                    0|MagicMirror  | [22.03.2022 10:27.42.463] [LOG]
                                    
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                                      thgmirror @TvE
                                      last edited by

                                      @TvE That is my experimental setup:

                                      333da9b0-4678-404c-88eb-5b5ae9c65ba4-image.png

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                                        TvE @Ivanov_d
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                                        @Ivanov_d
                                        Maybe we’re observing the same - currently it’s hard for me to tell.

                                        • You surely have no heat issue (no additional cooling is needed - only to prolong the life of the RPI)

                                        • OS
                                          As you hopefully have read in this thread I started with the same OS as you, then “downgraded” to the socalled “legacy” version and still saw the issues. then it suddenly stopped.
                                          Thus I need to replace to the latest OS and retest

                                        I have no logical reason to suspect the OS but I need to do the test to be 100% certain…

                                        • You can follow my test steps (using bisection - remove the handfull of external calls and see which triggers the problem)

                                        • My guess
                                          So far I can only conclude that something external provoked the network stack to crash.
                                          In the end of my testing () I had returned to my original config and no longer see problems
                                          That something must relate to one of the two services I was using (part of the vanilla config)

                                        UPDATE!!! - I just looked at my test and wow, this morning I had an error again (my test runs with the monitor turned off, thus I did not see this (I’m working on other tasks at the moment…).

                                        Looking in the logs I see calendar related issues a few hours before the service stopped

                                        My error occurred at [21.03.2022 22:39.02.219] in Denmark
                                        Your error occurred at [22.03.2022 10:27.33.823] in US? (guess deduced from your config)
                                        That way too close to just be a coincidence…

                                        I don’t know for how long you have been running your system, but I will now start to suspect that the root cause lies in the calendar service and we both are affected by the same root cause

                                        I wonder if we can find another source for those data

                                        (I now regret that I turned of tcpdump for my latest testing…)

                                        stdout

                                        [21.03.2022 22:34.06.084] [INFO]  Newsfeed-Fetcher: Broadcasting 20 items.
                                        [21.03.2022 22:39.02.219] [LOG]   Shutting down server...
                                        [21.03.2022 22:39.02.225] [LOG]   Stopping module helper: updatenotification
                                        [21.03.2022 22:39.02.226] [LOG]   Stopping module helper: calendar
                                        [21.03.2022 22:39.02.227] [LOG]   Stopping module helper: newsfeed
                                        

                                        err

                                        [21.03.2022 16:43.52.620] [WARN]  ^[[33mYou're using a full whitelist configuration to allow for all IPs^[[39m
                                        [1002:0321/164356.019064:ERROR:viz_main_impl.cc(161)] Exiting GPU process due to errors during initialization
                                        [1040:0321/164356.860589:ERROR:sandbox_linux.cc(376)] InitializeSandbox() called with multiple threads in process gpu-process.
                                        [21.03.2022 17:37.30.487] [ERROR] Calendar Error. Could not fetch calendar:  http://calendars.icloud.com/holidays/dk_da.ics FetchError: request to https://calendars.icloud.com/holidays/dk_da.ics failed, reason: connect ETIMEDOUT 17.248.150.146:443
                                            at ClientRequest.<anonymous> (/home/pi/MagicMirror/node_modules/node-fetch/lib/index.js:1483:11)
                                            at ClientRequest.emit (node:events:394:28)
                                            at TLSSocket.socketErrorListener (node:_http_client:447:9)
                                            at TLSSocket.emit (node:events:394:28)
                                            at emitErrorNT (node:internal/streams/destroy:157:8)
                                            at emitErrorCloseNT (node:internal/streams/destroy:122:3)
                                            at processTicksAndRejections (node:internal/process/task_queues:83:21) {
                                          type: 'system',
                                          errno: 'ETIMEDOUT',
                                          code: 'ETIMEDOUT'
                                        }
                                        [21.03.2022 17:44.40.539] [ERROR] Calendar Error. Could not fetch calendar:  http://calendars.icloud.com/holidays/dk_da.ics FetchError: request to https://calendars.icloud.com/holidays/dk_da.ics failed, reason: connect ETIMEDOUT 17.248.150.10:443
                                            at ClientRequest.<anonymous> (/home/pi/MagicMirror/node_modules/node-fetch/lib/index.js:1483:11)
                                            at ClientRequest.emit (node:events:394:28)
                                            at TLSSocket.socketErrorListener (node:_http_client:447:9)
                                            at TLSSocket.emit (node:events:394:28)
                                            at emitErrorNT (node:internal/streams/destroy:157:8)
                                            at emitErrorCloseNT (node:internal/streams/destroy:122:3)
                                            at processTicksAndRejections (node:internal/process/task_queues:83:21) {
                                          type: 'system',
                                          errno: 'ETIMEDOUT',
                                          code: 'ETIMEDOUT'
                                        }
                                        [958:0321/223902.258167:ERROR:zygote_communication_linux.cc(276)] Failed to send GetTerminationStatus message to zygote
                                        [958:0321/223902.279012:ERROR:zygote_communication_linux.cc(276)] Failed to send GetTerminationStatus message to zygote
                                        
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                                          Ivanov_d @TvE
                                          last edited by Ivanov_d

                                          @TvE it’s been running for 25 hours so far:

                                          pm2 status MagicMirror
                                          ┌───────────────┬────┬─────────┬──────┬──────┬────────┬─────────┬────────┬─────┬──────────┬──────┬──────────┐
                                          │ App name      │ id │ version │ mode │ pid  │ status │ restart │ uptime │ cpu │ mem      │ user │ watching │
                                          ├───────────────┼────┼─────────┼──────┼──────┼────────┼─────────┼────────┼─────┼──────────┼──────┼──────────┤
                                          │   MagicMirror │ 0  │ 2.18.0  │ fork │ 2911 │ online │ 15      │ 25h    │ 0%  │ 2.7 MB   │ pi   │ disabled │
                                          └───────────────┴────┴─────────┴──────┴──────┴────────┴─────────┴────────┴─────┴──────────┴──────┴──────────┘
                                          

                                          I am still tweaking my config, however, my approach was the following:

                                          1. I updated from Rapbian Buster to Bullseye
                                          2. That broke my Raspberry Pi 3b+'s WiFi connection (seems like a known bug https://forums.raspberrypi.com/viewtopic.php?t=325484), so I removed connman package and installed network-manager and connected to the WiFi. If you install network-manager, you will also want to disable the MAC randomization:
                                            To disable the WiFi MAC randomization, create the following file using the this command:
                                          sudo nano /etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/100-disable-wifi-mac-randomization.conf
                                          

                                          and paste the following content inside:

                                          [connection]
                                          wifi.mac-address-randomization=1
                                          [device]
                                          wifi.scan-rand-mac-address=no
                                          

                                          Save the changes and continue.

                                          1. I backed up my MM config and modules folder and started with a fresh install of MM 2.18
                                          2. I started MM with the default config - no luck, it was crashing every minute
                                          3. I started removing the default modules and installing the ones that I had before
                                          4. I was observing the same behavior as you did - the default modules that needed network connection, when fetching data were breaking the network stack somehow … I edited the config to enter my calendar and newsfeed URLs and that seemed to fixed the issue. It might be something in the response of the default calendar and/or newsfeed … but that is just my speculation.

                                          I also have pulled all the latest updates for every module that I had installed previously just to make sure that I am all up to date.

                                          Ever since as you can see, my MM has been running steadily. Definitely not an SoC temp issue, since I never had anything than the stock aluminum radiators on the Pi and it has been running for 3-4 years 24/7 already.

                                          I wouldn’t have decided to upgrade to bullseye if it was not a requirement for the new version of MMM-GoogleAssistant.

                                          Anyways, I hope that this helps.

                                          P.S. I am in Sofia, so the date/time in my log is GMT +02:00

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                                            @TvE I was jumping for joy way too soon. I took out my SD card to make a backup of it and when I put it back in, MagicMirror started restarting every other minute just like before. No changes were made whatsoever. I am now very confused …

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