Hello @tomsterand sorry for the late reply, I was out of town for a few days. I am planning to shoot few 4K/60 videos with my GoPro in different lightning conditions today, so that everyone can see the mirror in action.
Read the statement by Michael Teeuw here.
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RE: Borderless bathroom mirror
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RE: Borderless bathroom mirror
@tomster in my case I hope that burn-in won’t be an issue, since the display is ON for only few minutes, when I am in front of the mirror, then it goes into sleep, but as you said it is not yet mass produced in the size that I need for my project and the niche products cost a lot.
Just FYI, this is the mirror that I am using now and it is a bit better that the previous one that I used and a lot cheaper: https://forum.magicmirror.builders/topic/15553/new-2-way-mirror-supplier-lower-prices-and-lead-times?_=1632237048367
In natural light you can’t tell that this is not a regular mirror and in dim conditions it is perfectly usable as a mirror, for example I shave in front of it even with only my ambient lights on. When I turn on all lights it looks the same as regular mirror it terms of reflection.
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New 2-way mirror supplier - low prices and lead times
Hi all!
Let me introduce myself. My name is Denis and I’ve been a MagicMirror enthusiast like most of you since 2018.
Since then, I’ve been searching for the perfect mirror for my project. I’ve tried everything:- two glasses with reflective foil between them - too heavy
- spy mirror - too dark
- a mirror that is offered here on the forum from a known member was my last try and it somehow met my expectations, except for the price
I feel that the price is quite steep for the enthusiasts and it is slowing down the adoption of this cool tech.
Since the mirror that I last used was broken during transit I used it as a proof of concept for few months and started looking for a cheaper alternative and I finally found it.
The properties of the mirror are:
- 4 mm thickness
- 60/40 reflectiveness/light pass-thru which in my opinion works perfectly if the mirror is positioned in a place with natural light, however, my mirror is in the bathroom with no natural light. I found it usable in dim light conditions and perfectly usable in well-lit artificial light conditions. I will post two 4K/60fps videos later.
- It is the same weight as the other well-recognized mirror offered here on the forum and it is perfect for frameless designs (as mine)
The price is 449 euro/sq. m. and it includes: (last price update 24.04.2023)
- 4 mm thick 2-way mirror
- Polished edges (no additional cost for polishing the edges)
- Laser cut foil pre-applied as per your design (no more additional cardboard or wood board to worry about when building your mirror)
- The mirror can be glued to a frame with any glue/silicon due to the pre-applied foil for achieving a borderless design
Shipping:
The shipping will be calculated on case per case basis so that you can get the best price. The other mirrors offered here on the forum have a flat shipping rate which is unfair as a mirror with size 30x30 has the same shipping costs as mirror 80x80 for example. I want to avoid that. All shipping costs will be fair and individual.Another point:
The lead time is two weeks and there is no minimum order.Here is a topic for my borderless setup: https://forum.magicmirror.builders/topic/14048/borderless-bathroom-mirror?_=1632049363086 (please note that the mirror there is another one that is offered here on the forum, the one I am offering looks better in my opinion)
I will post videos of the mirror in action in poor lighting conditions (my bathroom with no natural light) later.
I am open to any questions and another perk for the first three orders is that I will cover 50% of the shipping costs. UPDATE 08-12-2021: I have already shipped 3 orders; therefore the perk is no longer valid, however, the shipping cost is very reasonable IMHO.
In order to keep the price low for you, I would also accept payment through Revolut or through SEPA wire transfer which should have zero cost to you in most EU states.
NOTE 1: There might be +/- 1 mm tolerance in the mirror size
NOTE 2: When sending the foil drawing, please point out from which side you are viewing the drawing - in front of the mirror or looking at it from the back (e.g. mirrored or not). That is very important especially for assymethrical shapes.
NOTE 3 (update 05.07.2023): The shipping company that I used to ship the mirrors got fully acquired by DPD and they changed their international shipping policy, now they won’t accept packages longer than 175 cm, therefore, the mirrors that I can ship cannot be over 165 cm due to the padding. I sent a 170 cm long mirror recently, however, I had to compromise the side padding, fortunately it arrived at the destination in one piece but it was a compromise that I don’t want to make anymore. I could use other companies, but their prices are x2 higher and I want to keep the cost to a minimum so more people can build their projects.Update 24.04.2023:
I am updating the price since I haven’t done so in two years and the prices have soared, unfortunately. The new price is 449 euro/sq. m.Update 13.07.2023: I have decided that all money that I make from these mirrors (not just the profit - ALL MONEY) will go to different donations. So far, I have donated to three different campaigns for children with cancer.
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RE: Borderless bathroom mirror
@internetpolice you can use any foil, I used the cheapest PVC foil.
A piece of advice - I thought that white foil would add additional reflection to the mirror and make it brighter, but it didn’t and I swapped it with black foil - it is much better.The glue that I used is this one:
However, since you will be gluing it to the PVC foil and not to the mirror directly, you could use any silicone.
Since as I mentioned in the start of my thread the mirror, I received from Chris was damaged during transit, I bought a new one from a company in Bulgaria which is much better and cheaper (which I hope to soon offer here on the forum) and when I was removing the old mirror from the frame … man, it was strong … I broke the mirror in multiple places as I was cutting the silicone, so you should not worry about the mirror not sticking, it is not that heavy as the mirror is thin.
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RE: MM & Home Assistant (HASS)
@cowboysdude https://letyshops.com/r/aliexpress-ww-97c9f222e4cc I got it from this seller on AliExpress as I found it to be the cheapest
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RE: How to attach the support frame to the mirror and film
I have a similar setup. Here is a link to my thread: https://forum.magicmirror.builders/topic/14048/borderless-bathroom-mirror?_=1630345450317
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RE: MM & Home Assistant (HASS)
I had this set-up for quite a while now, but I have it configured a bit different. I have a ZigBee human body detector in the bathroom integrated with HA and based on the input I remotely control MM via HA automations.
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RE: Borderless bathroom mirror
Sure.
Currently I am using:
- MMM-MyCalendar
- MMM-DarkSkyForecast
- MMM-homeassistant-sensors
- MMM-Spotify
- MMM-GoogleAssistant
- MMM-GoogleBirthdaysProvider
- MMM-MyCommute
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Borderless bathroom mirror
First things first. It all started 2 years ago when I started building a smart home system based on Home Assistant. The next logical step for me was a smart bathroom mirror that would display my calendar, commute to work information, weather info and sensor info from my smart home.
I had all the needed hardware - 24"LCD, Raspberry Pi 3b+ and etc.
I wanted a frameless mirror as it looked more slick, modern and professional.
I decided to go with the mirror that Goldjunge_Chriz offered as it had a lot of positive reviews on the forum albeit being more expensive.
The setup is the following:
- 80x73 cm two-way mirror (I was the unlucky winner who got a broken mirror by the courier, but that’s another story. I managed to glue it just for the sake of testing. I found a mirror company here in Bulgaria that offers a better and cheaper alternative but I will share more details on that later)
- 24" LCD monitor
- WRGB LED strip behind the mirror, controlled by H801 Wi-Fi controller integrated with Home Assistant
- PS3 eye camera behind the mirror which is responsible for face recognition and voice commands
- External motion sensor turns on the mirror and switches it off after there is no motion detected (Home Assistant automation)
- The WRGB LED is controlled by Home Assistant
The frame:
- Built out of 50x50 mm Г-shaped aluminum profiles, welded together
- On the back of the mirror there is a non-transparent foil cut to the dimensions of the monitor
- The frame is glued to the mirror through the foil
Some pictures of the back of the mirror before it is installed:
Videos of the mirror in action:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eljzwpAeAdM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNTWafM9NF4Considerations:
- The mirror is too dark … it is not suitable for rooms with no natural light. I will be testing another mirror at a later stage and will come back with the results, but this one is definitely not going to serve as a normal mirror in your bathroom.
- You have to stick something to the back of the mirror (e.g. non-transperant foil, wood panel or something else, otherwise you will be able to see through)
- If you can afford it (I can’t at the moment) go for an OLED monitor/TV - the LCD backlight is seen through the mirror and while it is not that bad I am perfectionist and it bothers me :D