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      sdetweil @ankonaskiff17
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      @ankonaskiff17 which. prior, this w chromium, it’s Tuesday?

      Sam

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        ankonaskiff17 @sdetweil
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        @sdetweil I took two identical Pi 4B’s, formatted them intalled 64 bit PI OS on both.
        Then installed MM 2.22.0 on one and 2.23.0 on the other.
        No VNC or SSH, start to finish.

        2.22.0 I hit ALT (only) and the expected toolbar with VIEW then Toggle Full Screen and the Open Developer Tools come up as I am accustomed to.

        2.23.0 exhibits that same unexpected behavior that started us down this road.

        The whole ALT+F11 is WAY WAY beyond me but it does shrink the size of the MM overlay. Unfortunately it does not give you Open Developer Tools so that is a problem.

        Beyond that, I am clueless. Why 2.22.0 works as desired and 2.23.0 doesn’t is way out beyond my level of knowledge.

        I never got to the Chromium stuff you described but more than happy to run that down on the Pi with 2.23.0 on it.
        Once I saw that 2.22.0 install give me what I wanted I was going see if I could repeat that.

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          sdetweil @ankonaskiff17
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          @ankonaskiff17 yes, the electron version changed between 22 and 23…

          so, we are back to the original statement… something changed in electron…

          Sam

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            ankonaskiff17 @sdetweil
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            @sdetweil You won’t get any argument out of me on that score.
            As I said, glad to help if I can just as long as you tell me what to do.

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              ankonaskiff17 @sdetweil
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              @sdetweil I’m calling it a wrap for today but is there a way to make the developer tools to open that is not “open developer tools”?

              I did something yesterday and that launched but when you move the mouse around it is like it is behind the MM window. If it wasn’t doing that you could right click page and bring that up up.

              Reason I ask is I did see some Electron errors yesterday but I’ve seen them in past so I just ignored.

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                ankonaskiff17 @sdetweil
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                @sdetweil Can you tell me how to easily capture/install the prior 2.20.0 version ether direct to the Pi I want to install MM on. I have two upcoming MM projects and while the one Pi is ready, it is going to be a simple build as far as MM’s go so will knock it out pretty quickly.

                I have successfully installed that earlier version twice but still way more hunting and pecking than is desireable. Plus it would be good to know more generally.

                Is sudo rm -r MagicMirror the best way to remove the problematic 2.23.0version? That is what I have been doing and since I have only just installed MM and no modules it seemed like that would do what I needed.

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                  sdetweil @ankonaskiff17
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                  @ankonaskiff17 you can rename it

                  mv MagicMirror new_name

                  later rm -rf MagicMirror to delete it
                  I posted on the github issue on how to git clone a tag
                  and where to find the tags
                  each release is saved as a tag

                  Sam

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                    ankonaskiff17 @sdetweil
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                    @sdetweil Thank you.

                    I’ve piddled around with computers since THE computer was a Tandy Something Something I bought at a Radio Shack when they and hardware focused mom & pop computer stores were the only way to buy/build a NOT $7,000.00 IBM. There was an EGG Computer store as big as a Best Buy big box store in Charlotte, NC I used to go to and drool at all the hardware.

                    Been several multi-year gaps in there for sure but I can always rely on computers to tax my brain. Just like this.

                    I appreciate your help and patience.

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                      ankonaskiff17 @sdetweil
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                      @sdetweil I assume it is on you all to resolve MM’s conflict with the newest version of Electron?
                      I could see that going both ways. If new version of Electron broke EVERYONE’s application that uses Electron is different than if it only breaks one or two applications.

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                        ankonaskiff17 @sdetweil
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                        @sdetweil I went to the Github Issue to see what you wrote and I don’t see anything relating to to how to retrieve an older version of the repository. All my Googling I had found how each version has tag associated with it but I can’t find in the issue stream anywhere.

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                          sdetweil @ankonaskiff17
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                          @ankonaskiff17 issue stream?

                          have to look at the changelog of the tag

                          you should be able to

                          git checkout -b branch_name tagname
                          

                          I think.

                          but if you used my script to install, then I strip out all the extra branches to save space

                          so you would have to use the clone approach

                          Screenshot_20230622_210722_Chrome.jpg

                          Sam

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                            sdetweil @ankonaskiff17
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                            @ankonaskiff17 I did this

                            git clone -b v2.19.0 https://github.com/MichMich/MagicMirror.git mm2.19
                            

                            to get the v2.19.0 tag into the folder called mm2.19

                            if you don’t have the name at the end the folder will be MagicMirror
                            (and fail if there is one already)

                            Sam

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                              ankonaskiff17 @sdetweil
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                              @sdetweil Used your script and worked like a charm. Didnt put in mm2.22 at end since I had no previous install.

                              Then did the various appropriate steps from the “official” manual install, like node and everything running as desired.

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                                sdetweil @ankonaskiff17
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                                @ankonaskiff17 my script does everything… no extra steps required

                                Sam

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                                  ankonaskiff17 @ankonaskiff17
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                                  @ankonaskiff17 I meant the one where you use the version tag. Not the one that
                                  alternative Installation methods is in . That pulls in the current version which is causing me problems with the ALT key

                                  git clone -b v2.19.0 https://github.com/MichMich/MagicMirror.git mm2.19

                                  I was unsure if git clone -b v2.19.0 https://github.com/... was going to install node.js, or PM2 so I did those portions of manual installation.

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                                    sdetweil @ankonaskiff17
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                                    @ankonaskiff17 ah

                                    Sam

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                                      EricD
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                                      Hello all,
                                      I just install MagiMirror on a new RPI5 and I get the same problem : Alt key doesn’t give me the menu.
                                      I have compared electron.js from an old installation that works fine with the one I just install on my RPI5 and I remark the line “electronOptionsDefaults.autoHideMenuBar = true;” is missing in the new version. I add this line in the new version, similar place in the code list, and now the Alt command works like the old version : I get the menu.
                                      So it is solved for me, until the next update of electron.js file…

                                      If it can help you…

                                      EricD

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                                        sdetweil @EricD
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                                        @EricD yes electron changed the key behavior again. nothing we can do

                                        Sam

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                                          ankonaskiff17 @sdetweil
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                                          I have a SmartiPi Touch 2 and a SmartiPi Touch Pro I want to install MM on with both focusing on weather and maybe an item based on user request.

                                          Do you recommend going for the latest greatest Bookworm install or an older Pi OS version to build off of? I’m not averse to a learning experience but don’t want to beat my head on a cinderblock wall either.
                                          I had the infamous magic smoke :dashing_away: come out of the Pi 4 on my Ender 3D Printer and thinking about doing a MM or two while new parts come for printer. Nothing like feeding the Pi 4B with 24V instead of 5V.
                                          Melted my Logitech Mouse/Keyboard dongle.

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                                            sdetweil @ankonaskiff17
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                                            @ankonaskiff17 those are just cases. just a pi underneath

                                            I am running bookworm on my pi4 in the case w 7in touch screen display, and MagicMirror w no issues

                                            Sam

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