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    ALT not doing anything

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      sdetweil @ankonaskiff17
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      @ankonaskiff17 “usage”, oh you mean the DOC… hahaha…

      things change way too fast

      Sam

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        ankonaskiff17 @sdetweil
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        @sdetweil Hitting ALT always worked in the past and continues to work on the older MM. I don’t pull these things out of thin air. I get your point about documentation though.
        You mentioned early in this conversation about that being something that is done in Electron. Electron is way beyond my knowledge level. But searching Google it seems that somewhere in Electron there is titleBarStyle and it is currently set to hidden . I haven’t a clue as to how to run that to ground but almost like someone was messing with the code trying to make a kiosk but didn’t do that locally.

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          ankonaskiff17 @sdetweil
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          @sdetweil This is in regards to auto-starting MM.
          When installing NPM per the documentation, do you install at ~$ or at/MagicMirror $
          It isn’t real clear because half way through that sequence it has cd ~ which you could take to mean you are installing npm at the MagicMirror level then you back up to put the auto start script at root?

          I kinda-sorta think I understand what is going on with this ALT problem but I’m out of gas and will confirm in the morning.

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            sdetweil @ankonaskiff17
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            @ankonaskiff17 npm is installed globally (-g)
            effectively as root… system wide

            the pm2 install for auto start is to execute the command output from the command, pm2 startup

            and npm (node package manager). is what loads the dependencies listed in package.json (npm install) and then executes the command listed in the scripts section of package.json (npm start, or npm run xxxxx, see the list)

            I posted the command line parms to launch chromium instead of electron, so try that and see what keyboard handling there is…

            Sam

            How to add modules

            learning how to use browser developers window for css changes

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              ankonaskiff17 @sdetweil
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              @sdetweil It’s alive.

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                sdetweil @ankonaskiff17
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                @ankonaskiff17 which. prior, this w chromium, it’s Tuesday?

                Sam

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                  ankonaskiff17 @sdetweil
                  last edited by ankonaskiff17

                  @sdetweil I took two identical Pi 4B’s, formatted them intalled 64 bit PI OS on both.
                  Then installed MM 2.22.0 on one and 2.23.0 on the other.
                  No VNC or SSH, start to finish.

                  2.22.0 I hit ALT (only) and the expected toolbar with VIEW then Toggle Full Screen and the Open Developer Tools come up as I am accustomed to.

                  2.23.0 exhibits that same unexpected behavior that started us down this road.

                  The whole ALT+F11 is WAY WAY beyond me but it does shrink the size of the MM overlay. Unfortunately it does not give you Open Developer Tools so that is a problem.

                  Beyond that, I am clueless. Why 2.22.0 works as desired and 2.23.0 doesn’t is way out beyond my level of knowledge.

                  I never got to the Chromium stuff you described but more than happy to run that down on the Pi with 2.23.0 on it.
                  Once I saw that 2.22.0 install give me what I wanted I was going see if I could repeat that.

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                    sdetweil @ankonaskiff17
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                    @ankonaskiff17 yes, the electron version changed between 22 and 23…

                    so, we are back to the original statement… something changed in electron…

                    Sam

                    How to add modules

                    learning how to use browser developers window for css changes

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                      ankonaskiff17 @sdetweil
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                      @sdetweil You won’t get any argument out of me on that score.
                      As I said, glad to help if I can just as long as you tell me what to do.

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                        ankonaskiff17 @sdetweil
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                        @sdetweil I’m calling it a wrap for today but is there a way to make the developer tools to open that is not “open developer tools”?

                        I did something yesterday and that launched but when you move the mouse around it is like it is behind the MM window. If it wasn’t doing that you could right click page and bring that up up.

                        Reason I ask is I did see some Electron errors yesterday but I’ve seen them in past so I just ignored.

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                          ankonaskiff17 @sdetweil
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                          @sdetweil Can you tell me how to easily capture/install the prior 2.20.0 version ether direct to the Pi I want to install MM on. I have two upcoming MM projects and while the one Pi is ready, it is going to be a simple build as far as MM’s go so will knock it out pretty quickly.

                          I have successfully installed that earlier version twice but still way more hunting and pecking than is desireable. Plus it would be good to know more generally.

                          Is sudo rm -r MagicMirror the best way to remove the problematic 2.23.0version? That is what I have been doing and since I have only just installed MM and no modules it seemed like that would do what I needed.

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                            sdetweil @ankonaskiff17
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                            @ankonaskiff17 you can rename it

                            mv MagicMirror new_name

                            later rm -rf MagicMirror to delete it
                            I posted on the github issue on how to git clone a tag
                            and where to find the tags
                            each release is saved as a tag

                            Sam

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                              ankonaskiff17 @sdetweil
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                              @sdetweil Thank you.

                              I’ve piddled around with computers since THE computer was a Tandy Something Something I bought at a Radio Shack when they and hardware focused mom & pop computer stores were the only way to buy/build a NOT $7,000.00 IBM. There was an EGG Computer store as big as a Best Buy big box store in Charlotte, NC I used to go to and drool at all the hardware.

                              Been several multi-year gaps in there for sure but I can always rely on computers to tax my brain. Just like this.

                              I appreciate your help and patience.

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                                ankonaskiff17 @sdetweil
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                                @sdetweil I assume it is on you all to resolve MM’s conflict with the newest version of Electron?
                                I could see that going both ways. If new version of Electron broke EVERYONE’s application that uses Electron is different than if it only breaks one or two applications.

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                                  ankonaskiff17 @sdetweil
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                                  @sdetweil I went to the Github Issue to see what you wrote and I don’t see anything relating to to how to retrieve an older version of the repository. All my Googling I had found how each version has tag associated with it but I can’t find in the issue stream anywhere.

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                                    sdetweil @ankonaskiff17
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                                    @ankonaskiff17 issue stream?

                                    have to look at the changelog of the tag

                                    you should be able to

                                    git checkout -b branch_name tagname
                                    

                                    I think.

                                    but if you used my script to install, then I strip out all the extra branches to save space

                                    so you would have to use the clone approach

                                    Screenshot_20230622_210722_Chrome.jpg

                                    Sam

                                    How to add modules

                                    learning how to use browser developers window for css changes

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                                      sdetweil @ankonaskiff17
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                                      @ankonaskiff17 I did this

                                      git clone -b v2.19.0 https://github.com/MichMich/MagicMirror.git mm2.19
                                      

                                      to get the v2.19.0 tag into the folder called mm2.19

                                      if you don’t have the name at the end the folder will be MagicMirror
                                      (and fail if there is one already)

                                      Sam

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                                        ankonaskiff17 @sdetweil
                                        last edited by ankonaskiff17

                                        @sdetweil Used your script and worked like a charm. Didnt put in mm2.22 at end since I had no previous install.

                                        Then did the various appropriate steps from the “official” manual install, like node and everything running as desired.

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                                          sdetweil @ankonaskiff17
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                                          @ankonaskiff17 my script does everything… no extra steps required

                                          Sam

                                          How to add modules

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                                            ankonaskiff17 @ankonaskiff17
                                            last edited by ankonaskiff17

                                            @ankonaskiff17 I meant the one where you use the version tag. Not the one that
                                            alternative Installation methods is in . That pulls in the current version which is causing me problems with the ALT key

                                            git clone -b v2.19.0 https://github.com/MichMich/MagicMirror.git mm2.19

                                            I was unsure if git clone -b v2.19.0 https://github.com/... was going to install node.js, or PM2 so I did those portions of manual installation.

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