ALT not doing anything

[sdetweil]

@ankonaskiff17 I never tried alt by itself, ever.

yes aarch64 is 64 bit, armv7l is 32 bit

raspi 64 bit came out last year. was a beta before that… beta pretty unstable

[bugsounet]

@sdetweil no,no it’s a 32Bits OS with X64 kernel

It’s now the new rule for 32Bits version

you can have 32bits kernel with 32bits Os by editing /boot/config.txt

and adding this line at the end:
arm_64bit=0

result is:

pi@raspberrypi:~/MagicMirror $ uname -a
Linux raspberrypi 6.1.21-v7l+ #1642 SMP Mon Apr  3 17:22:30 BST 2023 armv7l GNU/Linux

by default arm_64bit=1 for apply x64 kernel

[ankonaskiff17]

@sdetweil This is why ALT

In any case neither ALT, ALT+Spacebar or CTL+m allow me to easily move back and forth between configuring and checking the Magic Mirror.

This is all being done on Pi4B’s BTW.
I have formatted the sd card on the original Pi4B now 4 times and installed MM 4 times right behing the Pi OS fresh install. 64 bit

After you made mention of 32 bit I took a second Pi 4B, installed 32 bit Pi OS and then right behind I installed MM

The existing, functioning MM is fine. I hit ALT and it does just what the attached picture says it should do.

So I have two Pi 4B’s, one of which is running 32 bit Pi OS and one running 64 bit Pi OS.
Neither will let me get access to the toolbar in any combination of keystrokes.

[sdetweil]

@ankonaskiff17 “usage”, oh you mean the DOC… hahaha…

things change way too fast

[ankonaskiff17]

@sdetweil Hitting ALT always worked in the past and continues to work on the older MM. I don’t pull these things out of thin air. I get your point about documentation though.
You mentioned early in this conversation about that being something that is done in Electron. Electron is way beyond my knowledge level. But searching Google it seems that somewhere in Electron there is titleBarStyle and it is currently set to hidden . I haven’t a clue as to how to run that to ground but almost like someone was messing with the code trying to make a kiosk but didn’t do that locally.

[ankonaskiff17]

@sdetweil This is in regards to auto-starting MM.
When installing NPM per the documentation, do you install at ~$ or at/MagicMirror $
It isn’t real clear because half way through that sequence it has cd ~ which you could take to mean you are installing npm at the MagicMirror level then you back up to put the auto start script at root?

I kinda-sorta think I understand what is going on with this ALT problem but I’m out of gas and will confirm in the morning.

[sdetweil]

@ankonaskiff17 npm is installed globally (-g)
effectively as root… system wide

the pm2 install for auto start is to execute the command output from the command, pm2 startup

and npm (node package manager). is what loads the dependencies listed in package.json (npm install) and then executes the command listed in the scripts section of package.json (npm start, or npm run xxxxx, see the list)

I posted the command line parms to launch chromium instead of electron, so try that and see what keyboard handling there is…

[ankonaskiff17]

@sdetweil It’s alive.

[sdetweil]

@ankonaskiff17 which. prior, this w chromium, it’s Tuesday?

[ankonaskiff17]

@sdetweil I took two identical Pi 4B’s, formatted them intalled 64 bit PI OS on both.
Then installed MM 2.22.0 on one and 2.23.0 on the other.
No VNC or SSH, start to finish.

2.22.0 I hit ALT (only) and the expected toolbar with VIEW then Toggle Full Screen and the Open Developer Tools come up as I am accustomed to.

2.23.0 exhibits that same unexpected behavior that started us down this road.

The whole ALT+F11 is WAY WAY beyond me but it does shrink the size of the MM overlay. Unfortunately it does not give you Open Developer Tools so that is a problem.

Beyond that, I am clueless. Why 2.22.0 works as desired and 2.23.0 doesn’t is way out beyond my level of knowledge.

I never got to the Chromium stuff you described but more than happy to run that down on the Pi with 2.23.0 on it.
Once I saw that 2.22.0 install give me what I wanted I was going see if I could repeat that.