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    ALT not doing anything

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    • ankonaskiff17A Offline
      ankonaskiff17
      last edited by ankonaskiff17

      Regarding yesterdays change of subject question, my concern was if somehow a virus was loading itself on my Pi.

      I kind of think I know what the problem is but it seems like an install problem because 1) it is repeatable and 2) it is like this straight from the install.

      I don’t know the official name for the “bar” but it is missing.
      This is from am MM I built a couple of years ago.

      Missing Bar.jpg

      Non-existent in this most recent install. I saw it missing yesterday. That missing bar was what prompted my question.
      I’ve installed via @sdetweil script

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        sdetweil @ankonaskiff17
        last edited by

        @ankonaskiff17 which os?

        lsb_release -a
        uname -a

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        • ankonaskiff17A Offline
          ankonaskiff17 @sdetweil
          last edited by ankonaskiff17

          @sdetweil
          ~ $ lsb_release -a
          No LSB modules are available.
          Distributor ID: Debian
          Description: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye)
          Release: 11
          Codename: bullseye

          ~ $ uname -a
          Linux PiPics 6.1.21-v8+ #1642 SMP PREEMPT Mon Apr 3 17:24:16 BST 2023 aarch64 GNU/Linux

          My installation process amounts to formating micro-sd card, firing up Raspberry Pi’s installer, install their posted software.
          Immediately do apt update, apt full-upgrade then head to the MM link to your Github based installer. Copy your script, hit enter.
          When asked about screensaver & pm2 I answer yes to both.

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            sdetweil @ankonaskiff17
            last edited by

            @ankonaskiff17 yes, it’s the 64 bit os… SOOOOO we don’t know… we don’t test there. but it’s electron that is managing the keyboard in the browser

            alt-spacebar has been working for 30 years.

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            • ankonaskiff17A Offline
              ankonaskiff17 @sdetweil
              last edited by ankonaskiff17

              @sdetweil is the aarch64 what is telling you 64 bit?

              I am about 95% sure that the other MM I referenced having built a couple of years ago is 64 bit also.
              ALT on that MM brings up the toolbar as expected.
              BUT…when I do ALT+Spacebar it does not give the same result.
              The way I’m reading your comments ALT and ALT+Spacebar should give the same result, or did in the past.

              Not being a programmer many of these commands I am unaware of.

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                sdetweil @ankonaskiff17
                last edited by sdetweil

                @ankonaskiff17 I never tried alt by itself, ever.

                yes aarch64 is 64 bit, armv7l is 32 bit

                raspi 64 bit came out last year. was a beta before that… beta pretty unstable

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                • bugsounetB Offline
                  bugsounet Banned @sdetweil
                  last edited by bugsounet

                  @sdetweil no,no it’s a 32Bits OS with X64 kernel

                  It’s now the new rule for 32Bits version

                  you can have 32bits kernel with 32bits Os by editing /boot/config.txt

                  and adding this line at the end:
                  arm_64bit=0

                  result is:

                  pi@raspberrypi:~/MagicMirror $ uname -a
                  Linux raspberrypi 6.1.21-v7l+ #1642 SMP Mon Apr  3 17:22:30 BST 2023 armv7l GNU/Linux
                  

                  by default arm_64bit=1 for apply x64 kernel

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                  • ankonaskiff17A Offline
                    ankonaskiff17 @sdetweil
                    last edited by ankonaskiff17

                    @sdetweil This is why ALT
                    Using Alt.jpg

                    In any case neither ALT, ALT+Spacebar or CTL+m allow me to easily move back and forth between configuring and checking the Magic Mirror.

                    This is all being done on Pi4B’s BTW.
                    I have formatted the sd card on the original Pi4B now 4 times and installed MM 4 times right behing the Pi OS fresh install. 64 bit

                    After you made mention of 32 bit I took a second Pi 4B, installed 32 bit Pi OS and then right behind I installed MM

                    The existing, functioning MM is fine. I hit ALT and it does just what the attached picture says it should do.

                    So I have two Pi 4B’s, one of which is running 32 bit Pi OS and one running 64 bit Pi OS.
                    Neither will let me get access to the toolbar in any combination of keystrokes.

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                      sdetweil @ankonaskiff17
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                      @ankonaskiff17 “usage”, oh you mean the DOC… hahaha…

                      things change way too fast

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                      • ankonaskiff17A Offline
                        ankonaskiff17 @sdetweil
                        last edited by ankonaskiff17

                        @sdetweil Hitting ALT always worked in the past and continues to work on the older MM. I don’t pull these things out of thin air. I get your point about documentation though.
                        You mentioned early in this conversation about that being something that is done in Electron. Electron is way beyond my knowledge level. But searching Google it seems that somewhere in Electron there is titleBarStyle and it is currently set to hidden . I haven’t a clue as to how to run that to ground but almost like someone was messing with the code trying to make a kiosk but didn’t do that locally.

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