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    PIR Sensor turning display on/off over and over

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    • H Offline
      hermlam
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      Hi all,
      Thanks for the reactions. I ordered one and will test tomorrow.
      Herman

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        cyberphox
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        i gave up on my PIR sensor cause this was happening to me…guess who is searching for a Ferrite bead tomorrow!!!

        Full time Dad, DJ and entertainer and lover of technology.

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          johnnyboy @Renfield
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            phrazelle
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            FWIW, a ferrite bead is a working solution, but I was able to circumvent this issue by keeping the PIR Sensor a good distance from the Pi. Mine is about 3 feet away from the Pi and doesn’t act erratically as it did when it was right next to it during testing.

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                Jay
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                Similar problem here, PIR works like a charm (tested with code of post #4) but after starting the MagicMirror the display is turned off and on over and over even though nothing is changed in front of the sensor. (I use MMM-PIR).

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                  hermlam @phrazelle
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                  @phrazelle Since I am having a ‘cordless’ mirror (power is coming from wall behind mirror) I don’t want to see cables to my mirror. I’ve build the PIR into the frame of my mirror.

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                    hermlam
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                    Even with the bead installed I have various results. Sometimes it’s running ok for an hour or so, but most of the time I’m getting a lot of false positives. And very strange, only with the output timer (2nd yellow knob) on minimal it’s working ok. But then the screen lits up far too short. But output time has nothing to do with it?

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                      Jay
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                      Basically I had the same error with the display turning on and off over time. All in anger, I deinstalled the MagicMirror from the Pi and began at zero again.
                      After updating and upgrading the Pi and installing the MagicMirror, a new try with the PIR-Module was iniciated. So I installed the PIR-Module and somehow noticed that my GPIO cables were wrong connected (ground connected to GPIO21 and vice-versa).
                      So after this embarassing moment of disbelieve I changed the connections and checked if the sensor is working with a simple python script:

                      from gpiozero import MotionSensor
                      import time
                      
                      pir = MotionSensor(21)
                      
                      while True: #repeat this forever
                          if pir.motion_detected: # if motion is detected print the message
                              print("Motion detected!")
                          if not pir.motion_detected: # if no motion is detected print the message
                              print("No motion detected!")
                          time.sleep(1)
                      

                      Note that my pir is using GPIO21.
                      With this script I tested the sensor and it worked like a charm, even though the sensor is placed 5 centimeters away from the raspberry pi 3 (with no case or even a bead installed).
                      In the end, I only had to do a cd MagicMirror again, and install the MagicMirror:
                      npm install. With this setup the MMM-PIR-module works magnificient.

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                        deepshades @Jay
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                        @Jay

                        Hi Jay, can you reply a link to your PIR module you finaly use?

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                          Jay @deepshades
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                          @deepshades
                          Basically its just the standard PIR-Sensor shipped with female to female gpio connections (PIR-Sensor Amazon).

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                            deepshades @Jay
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                            @Jay

                            Ok, so you just use a script to let the sensor deactivate the hdmi output?
                            Could you tell me the steps to let all work together?

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                              Jay @deepshades
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                              @deepshades
                              Well ok…
                              step 1: get nodejs and npm --> sudo apt-get install nodejs then sudo apt-get install npm
                              step 2: update + upgrade the pi --> sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
                              step 3: install MagicMirror --> as seen here MagicMirror Github Page
                              step 4: connect the PIR-Sensor to your Pi --> ground to ground (e.g. Pin 6), VCC to 5V (e.g. Pin 2), Out to GPIO XX (e.g. Pin 16)
                              step 5: check if PIR-Sensor works --> as seen at my script above (watch your connected GPIO pin, maybe change in script is required) --> some fiddling with sensitivity knobs here is needed
                              step 6: install MMM-PIR --> MMM-PIR Github Page
                              step 7: reboot and reinstall MagicMirror in MagicMirror directory --> cd MagicMirror and npm install

                              this has worked for me…

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                                johnnyboy @Jay
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                                  Jay @johnnyboy
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                                  @johnnyboy

                                  The steps I described started after a succesfully installation of the operating system on the pi, so with no MagicMirror installed --> step 3 is the first time MM is installed.
                                  These are the steps which worked for me, somehow after the second install of the MagicMirror (step 7) the PIR worked --> this step could be obsolete for others, thats just what i did experience.

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                                    johnnyboy @Jay
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                                      jproehl
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                                      Hi: I’m having the same problem with the PIR sensor module - when motion is detected the screen comes on for about 1 sec and then shuts off. It operates like that for a minute or so and then begins to not respond or responds intermittently to motion. I’ve added a magnet ring, updated the OS and the MMM-PIR module, but still have the same issues. Any ideas what I should check? Thx!

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                                        elmerito25 @jproehl
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                                        @jproehl Does your PIR sensor has a sensitivity and time option? Try playing with it and see if it works. Also, feel free to post pix of the wiring connection so we can visually verify. I also play around with the GPIO pins. Hope this helps!

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                                          jproehl @elmerito25
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                                          @elmerito25 Hi:

                                          Thanks for the reply. The PIR has two rheostats labeled Sx and Tx, so which is which. I’m tempted to dispense with the PIR altogether and just use the monitor on/off switch to activate the display. But, I’ll mess with the PIR when I get a chance and see if I can get anywhere. Using Board numbering, the PIR has its VCC pin wired to pin 4, its ground pin wired to Pin 6 and its signal pin wired to Pin 7. I set the pin number in my config.js file to 4 (Board pin 7 is GPIO pin 4). Would there be any problem with this wiring?

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