Where to get (cheap) acrylic mirror from in Germany

thk

Hi,

I am also using a glass from myspiegel.de.
Built the mirror quite some time ago, almost 2 years by now.

I’m satisfied with the glass, but indeed it looks “darker” and a bit more grey than a standard mirror.

dbahn25

@thk That looks great!!

@Steff said in Where to get (cheap) acrylic mirror from in Germany:

Kindly apologize, seems like the link was not really working:
http://www.pilkington.com/de-de/de/produkte/produktkategorien/spezialglaeser/pilkington-mirroview

That’s probably the best possible option, since it’s advertised to be used with TVs and screens. Have you already asked them how much that mirror costs?

EDIT: I just found a youtube video displaying the 50/50 version for high ambient light… that looks really good imho!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEmD-IcaOxo

dbahn25

I found something else: http://www.glas-per-klick.de/spiegel-antikspiegel/spionspiegel.html
since the small one (20x30cm) is pretty cheap I’ll just order one and try it out. I’ll keep you posted.

Steff

@dbahn25
I did ask Several glaciers in Munich for an offer of the Pilkington glass, however no one was able to provide an offer ( seems to be difficult to get a " Grosshändler" beeing able to sell this glass.
@yawns
Kindly apologize for the late answer, I just received the mirror and the invoice last week and I was on travel for several days. I paid tremendous 120 Eur for the glass, however, I “just wanted” it and they were extremely friendly, I can only tell you that it is from Glass Fuess, 6mm thickness, I do not have more data, but I can tell you, it really looks great. Currently assembling the frame, will post some pictures latest in two weeks, Regards Stefan

yawns

@Steff
No need to apologize, this is just a fun thing, we all have our real live and more important stuff to do.
Did they ship the mirror or did you have to pick it up your self?

Novocain

Hi,

following your conversations since a few weeks, guess what ?! I have the same trouble in finding a two way mirror.
Thanks for all the helpfull comments, tough i still strougle to find a feseller that i can afford ;-) Today i was at a glazier, his answer was roughly 220€ for that kind of mirror in 60x60cm. Still trying to find alternatives online…

I came across this webpage and there was an interessting side note: “Smart-Mirror können mit Spionspiegeln nur bedingt erstellt werden, dazu sind schwach reflektierende Spiegel besser geeignet. Diese können von uns bestellt werden, unterliegen aber einem Mindestbestellwert.” (Quote: http://www.glaserei-kater.de/spionspiegel.html) Which translates roughly into: Spymirrors/two way mirrors arent the most suitable for a smartmirror, the best should be a low/weak reflecting mirror.

Any ideas about that ? First time I hear from that kind of mirrors and no real products to find on the internet under the phrase “schwach reflektierender Spiegel”.

@dbahn25 The UK Side you mentioned doesnt ship to Germany do they ?

Blamer

A couple of weeks ago I found this link where several mirrors had been tested (German). The pros and cons are listet in detail and the test results seems to be comprehensible to me: https://glancr.de/development/test-spionspiegel-fuer-smart-mirrors/

Maybe that helps if somebody is in doubt in the right mirror material.

DirkS

Here are pictures of a mirror by myspiegel.de + frame of bilderrahmen-passt.de

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The mirror is darker than another ones i saw on pictures. It’s not a mirror for makeup ;)
But im satisfied and my wife, too! It does look very fine and beautiful with the darkness of the glass.

If you expect a real shiny mirror like in your bathroom myspiegel.de is the wrong shop for you.

Regards
Dirk

Steff

@yawns
I picked up the mirror myself. They had a sample in their glasshop which I tested with my setup directly in their shop. Since I did like the result, I decided to order it from them. Stefan

Novocain

@DirkS
Where do you hide all the technical stuff ? Is that a “rigips” wall ?

DirkS

@Novcheck check this

https://forum.magicmirror.builders/topic/787/inwall-mirror

Novocain

@DirkS Nice thank you - was a bit confused, how you “shrunk” the stuff down ;-)

DirkS

With the power of Hilti ;)

compoti

Thank you very much for the link to “bilderrahmen-passt.de”. I don’t know about this online shop. The frames looking really great and i have ordered one. So i’m looking forward to the finish of my Smart Mirror :-)

DirkS

@compoti you’re welcome! :D The quality is pretty good and the price as well! I have seen frames with a price around 100 € which had not such a good quality. Now it had a price of 35 € with freight charge.

dbahn25

@Novocain said in Where to get (cheap) acrylic mirror from in Germany:

@dbahn25 The UK Side you mentioned doesnt ship to Germany do they ?
They don’t say anything specific about that, and it’s possible to choose other countries than the UK in the checkout form. I didn’t go any further, yet, though.

My 20x30cm test mirror from glas-per-klick.de should arrive on monday, I’ll post some pictures of it when I get it.

@DirkS is it normal that everything looks kind of blueish / greenish in your room because of the light, or is that the mirror?

DirkS

@dbahn25 it is not the screen or mirror. it is the light of my ceiling construction.

Novocain

@dbahn25
Nice I am very interessted. Sad that they only offer two sizes.
Just had a look they offer three types the “silber”, “mirona standart” or the “mirona beamsplitter” - which one did you choose ?

dbahn25

@Novocain iirc I ordered the normal “silver” spy mirror version. It might have a too low transmission rate (3%, reflectance 60%), but we will (hopefully) see tomorrow

@DirkS alright, thanks :)

dbahn25

My test mirror finally arrived today, and I immediately took some photos with it on my screen for you guys ;) I didn’t have much time though, so it’s just a very quick test

I think it looks great, and even though the mirror is VERY reflective (3% transmission) the things displayed on screen are still clearly visible (and I only tested with the normal Windows 10 desktop with a rather dark grey background, but not with a raspi + magic mirror software yet)

@DirkS this one gets quite close to the “shiny bathroom mirror”, which you said the myspiegel.de one is not

I’ll post more pictures when I get on with my build (I’ll build something with that piece of mirror, even though it’s that small…), but that’ll probably not be before next week