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  • J Offline
    j.e.f.f Project Sponsor Module Developer
    last edited by Aug 18, 2017, 4:58 PM

    I just pushed an update to correct the German layout. Here’s an example:

    0_1503073498252_updated_de_example.jpg

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    • K Offline
      kruemel
      last edited by kruemel Aug 18, 2017, 9:20 PM Aug 18, 2017, 9:12 PM

      erm… sounds strange to me (Switzerland)
      We say: “Es ist zwanzig nach zwölf”
      or “es ist fünf vor halb eins”

      or “es ist fünf nach eins”
      or “es ist zwanzig vor eins”

      but nobody here says “zehn vor halb eins”

      … complicated this world languages, everybody talks different :D

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        A Former User @kruemel
        last edited by A Former User Aug 18, 2017, 9:42 PM Aug 18, 2017, 9:41 PM

        :D
        In Standarddeutsch(Hochdeutsch),
        08:20

        • Es ist zwanzig nach acht.
        • Es ist zehn vor halb neun.
          both are available. (Also, zwanzig vor = zehn nach halb)

        How about this?
        08:15

        • Es ist Viertel nach acht.
        • Es ist viertel acht.

        And in some southern German, even this is available.

        09:45

        • Es ist drei viertel neun.

        09:40

        • Es ist fünf Minuten vor drei viertel neun.

        That is why I dropped my German lesson. :)

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          strawberry 3.141 Project Sponsor Module Developer @Guest
          last edited by Aug 19, 2017, 7:52 AM

          @Sean the first is correct zwanzig vor = zehn nach halb

          the second is incorrect

          08:15
          Es ist Viertel nach acht.
          Es ist viertel acht.
          

          It is either Es ist viertel nach acht or Es ist viertel neun, but Es ist viertel acht would be 07:15.

          The next is also correct

          09:45
          Es ist drei viertel neun.
          

          And the last would be theoretically correct as well, but I really never heard someone saying this.

          09:40
          Es ist fünf Minuten vor drei viertel neun.
          

          German is probably one of the hardest languages to learn for foreigners.

          Please create a github issue if you need help, so I can keep track

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            A Former User @strawberry 3.141
            last edited by A Former User Aug 19, 2017, 9:27 AM Aug 19, 2017, 8:50 AM

            @strawberry-3.141 ^^ I was confused.^^ anyway, whether i’m living in Germany for several years as foreigner, Deutsche is verry difficult to learn. The only phrase I can speak is “Bitte? Leider ist meine Deutsche nicht so gut, Kennen Sie Engilsch sprechen?” :P

            @j-e-f-f Do you have any interest about Far-East-Asian version for your clock? For Korean, Japanese and Chinese I can help you for the schemes of word clock with proper characters. They are probably easier than Indian-European languages. And even shorter and less exception.
            Maybe it’s not useful for most users, but it could be pretty beautiful.

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              j.e.f.f Project Sponsor Module Developer @Guest
              last edited by Aug 19, 2017, 1:40 PM

              @Sean that would be amazing! I don’t think the fonts I’m using support double-byte characters though. I’ll have to check. I might need to source other fonts for these.

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                A Former User @j.e.f.f
                last edited by Aug 19, 2017, 3:09 PM

                @j.e.f.f noto font from google could be possible in raspbian. With my experience, people should install additional fonts for CJK supports like noto.

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                • J Offline
                  j.e.f.f Project Sponsor Module Developer @Guest
                  last edited by Aug 19, 2017, 3:41 PM

                  @Sean no need. If it’s available in google fonts then I can include it with the module. That’s what I’m doing now.

                  I need two fonts. One for the I highlighted state, which should be a rather plain version, and one for the highlighted state which should be ornamental.

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                  • ? Offline
                    A Former User @j.e.f.f
                    last edited by A Former User Aug 19, 2017, 3:48 PM Aug 19, 2017, 3:47 PM

                    @j.e.f.f Traditionally, sanserif and serif would fit.
                    In a few days, I’ll send you whole scheme for CJK.

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                      Lange
                      last edited by Aug 20, 2017, 11:25 AM

                      In Denmark we use 12-hour clock when we read out.
                      At midnight we use only midnight (midnat)
                      At half past six (06:30) we use “It is halv six” (Den er halv seks)

                      It’s one o’clock --> Den er et (01:00)
                      It’s five minutes past one --> Den er fem minutter over et (01:05)
                      It’s quarter past one --> Den er kvart over et (01:15)
                      It’s half past one --> Den er halv to (01:30)
                      It’s twenty-five minutes to two --> Den er femogtyve minutter i to (01:35)
                      It’s quarter to two --> Den er kvart i to (01:45)
                      It’s ten minutes to two --> Den er ti minutter i to (01:50)
                      It’s one o’clock --> Den er et (01:00)
                      It’s five minutes past one --> Den er fem minutter over et (01:05)
                      It’s ten minutes past one --> Den er ti minutter over et (01:10)
                      It’s quarter past one --> Den er kvart over et (01:15)
                      It’s twenty minutes past one --> Den er tyve minutter over et (01:20)
                      It’s twenty-five minutes past one --> Den er femogtyve minutter over et (01:25)
                      It’s half past one --> Den er halv to (01:30)
                      It’s twenty-five minutes to two --> Den er femogtyve minutter i to (01:35)
                      It’s twenty minutes to two --> Den er tyve minutter i to (01:40)
                      it’s quarter to two --> Den er kvart i to (01:45)
                      It’s ten minutes to two --> Den er ti minutter i to (01:50)
                      It’s five minutes to two --> Den er 5 minutter i to (01:55)

                      If asked about the time we say “Den er” (It is) but if we give the information in we would normally say “Klokken er” (The time is) - I have used “Den er” in this translation, but “Klokken er” is also very useable
                      We dont use anything after a full hour “Den er et” or “Klokken er et” would be “Its one o’clock”

                      Let me know if I can do anything for you, this was just a quick translation

                      {
                       "ITIS": "DEN ER",
                       "HALF": "HALV",
                       "QUARTER": "KVART",
                       "MINUTES": "MINUTTER",
                       "TO": "I",
                       "PAST": "OVER",
                       "ONE": "ET",
                       "TWO": "TO",
                       "THREE": "TRE",
                       "FOUR": "FIRE",
                       "FIVE": "FEM",
                       "SIX": "SEKS",
                       "SEVEN": "SYV",
                       "EIGHT": "OTTE",
                       "NINE": "NI",
                       "TEN": "TI",
                       "ELEVEN": "ELLEVE",
                       "TWELVE": "TOLV",
                       "TWENTY": "TYVE",
                       "OCLOCK": "NOT-USED",
                       "THIRTEEN": "TRETTEN",
                       "FORTEEN": "FJORTEN",
                       "FIFTEEN": "FEMTEN",
                       "SIXTEEN": "SEKSTEN",
                       "SEVENTEEN": "SYTTEN",
                       "EIGHTEEN": "ATTEN",
                       "NINETEEN": "NITTEN",
                       "THIRTY": "TYVE",
                       "FORTY": "FYRRE",
                       "FIFTY": "HALVTREDS",
                       "OH": "OH",
                       "HUNDRED": "HUNDREDE",
                       "ZERO": "NUL"
                      }
                      
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