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  • T Offline
    thymon
    last edited by thymon Dec 31, 2018, 11:53 AM Dec 31, 2018, 11:53 AM

    I need Pilkington MirroView 50/50. That’s it ?
    It remains to find a reseller.

    Thx Patrick.

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      Patrick
      last edited by Dec 31, 2018, 12:37 PM

      If the transmission ratio is too high you will just have some kind of “mirror glance”. The mirror glas has to fit to your environment. So nobody can tell you if this glas is fitting exactly. Maybe you get a sample of it upfront.

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        A Former User
        last edited by Dec 31, 2018, 2:04 PM

        Frankly, I think it’s better to use without mirror itself. :D

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          dazza120 @thymon
          last edited by Dec 31, 2018, 8:51 PM

          @thymon I went for 50/50 as I want to watch tv from it as well, if the environment is bright 50/50 is the glass, I’m in the UK had no problems finding a company to supply the pilkinton glass

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            broberg Project Sponsor
            last edited by broberg Jan 1, 2019, 9:11 PM Jan 1, 2019, 9:05 PM

            Thickness doesn’t really matter.

            But no, you can’t get glass that works perfectly in all lighting conditions, you basically have to decide where the mirror goes and choose type frome there.

            My usual recommendations are :

            Dark rooms, with limited/dimmed lighting go with 4-10% light transmission (not really recommeded at all, but this limits bleed through of the monitors backlight). Here you have the mirropane series that has models from 3% (chrome), 8% (chrome spy) and regular mirropane at 10%. And do note the chrome series has a “darker” reflection than mirroview that is brighter/more silver.

            Normal lit rooms, without direct sunlight go with 12-20% light transmission (sweet spot is 12% when balancing readability and backlight bleed through).
            Here you can find the regular pilkington mirroview at aprox. 20%

            Public rooms, with much daylight or brightly lit places I would go with 30-50% light transmission, the drawback is however that you often see the screen behind it really clearly and thus loses much of the magic. But as you have noticed, practically it has to be around 50% to be used in daylight, or as stated above, just as a “hidden” tv. Here you get the mirroview 50/50.

            A quck “fix” for low lighttransmission is to bulk up the text and symbols (use bold in a large font), it helps a little.

            And when it comes to the reflection % get as high as possible, a normal mirror has about 85-98% reflection. Most two way mirrors has around 60%, often lower. Reflection is oftenly not considered when building a smart mirror, but it should be.

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              bhepler Module Developer
              last edited by Jan 2, 2019, 4:19 AM

              FWIW, the professionals at TwoWayMirrors.com sell two way glass specifically for smart mirrors at 30% transparent. I have three of their mirrors and I’m quite pleased with them.

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                thymon
                last edited by thymon Jan 2, 2019, 4:23 PM Jan 2, 2019, 4:22 PM

                Thank you everyone for your answers.
                What do you think about Dielectric Mirror ?

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