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Double power supply, different output, for RPI and screen controller

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  • E Offline
    emlowe Module Developer
    last edited by Apr 9, 2018, 6:09 PM

    More specifically:

    (http://www.panelook.com/upload/201511/MNT686762A_12516-Specification_A2_(1)_201511187301.pdf)

    Supplies 5v on the CN3 pins (probably headless on the board, but 5v is there)

    This guy says it’s good up to 1.5 amps (https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=67312)

    I’ve confirmed that this is there and can indeed power the rpi - however, you if you need to power USB devices from the pi, it may not be enough.

    -Earle

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      shbatm Module Developer @emlowe
      last edited by Apr 9, 2018, 8:01 PM

      @emlowe said in Double power supply, different output, for RPI and screen controller:

      the controller itself may have a 5v output already on it that you can use.

      I’ve actually used this method on one of my Mirrors before – the driver board for my 27" monitor actually runs the controls on 5VDC and has a 5A polyfuse – I embedded the PI completely inside the back of the monitor housing and just tapped into this power supply to power it.

      (one of these days I’ll get a chance to post the full build details)
      0_1523304101315_Capture.PNG

      Another method that I’ve used on a separate project is to buy a cigarette lighter USB charger and use that to convert the 12VDC to the 5VDC for the Pi – something similar to one of these.

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        ctessier
        last edited by Apr 10, 2018, 5:24 AM

        Hey

        Thank you so much for your replies! I didn’t think of converters or even that the controller board might do the stuff! I am new to electronics and I guess I am too afraid to blow up stuff, so if I can avoid building things myself, that’s great. Although, where is the fun in that ;)

        I am still waiting for my controller to be delivered, here it is: https://www.ebay.fr/itm/NT68676-HDMI-DVI-VGA-LCD-Screen-Controller-Board-Kit-for-15-4-B154EW04-V-B-VB/122620926961?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649

        And the specs sheet I found: http://www.vslcd.com/Specification/M.NT68676.2A.pdf
        Seems like there is a power supply too but it points to nothing on the board. Any thoughts?

        I am though concerned about the intensity for the Raspberry. How can I make sure I much amps I need to power it, from 2.5 to let’s say 4 amps. For now I am not planning on plugging anything to it yet, except maybe for a PIR or some other motion sensor and audio later. Cherry on the cake would me a microphone for voice command. But see… do this mean I may need to rethink the power supply as I upgrade my mirror?

        Thank you for your help!
        Clément

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          MadScientist
          last edited by Apr 10, 2018, 5:57 AM

          The Pi itself doesn’t drain much power. It is suggested to use a 2.5A power supply to utilize the 4 USB ports. A PIR sensor or a microphone consume close to no power. So I am pretty sure 1A should be enough already. I know in my case the Pi drains 560mA at max, running MM (using WIFI, USB keyboard dongle, temperature sensor and PIR sensor).

          I am using a 0,20€ 3A buck converter for my Pi, which is powered by the 12V power supply for my LCD. Runs flawlessly for 3 months now continuously.

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            emlowe Module Developer
            last edited by Apr 10, 2018, 3:01 PM

            In the spec sheet you posted, see where it says CN3 on page 4 &5. This is an optional connector that may (or may not) be on the board.

            Pins 3 & 4 are 5v and 5 & 6 are GND.

            Note, however, unless you want to do some simple PCB soldering this isn’t the way to go. What I did was attach some header pins to the board, cut one end off a USB cable and attached it to the pins, then plugged it in the normal way into the RPi.

            0_1523372272947_PCB.jpg

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              bhepler Module Developer
              last edited by Apr 10, 2018, 4:48 PM

              I usually mount a power strip along the inside edge of the frame and run the Pi from there. This one pushes 2.4A on each of 4 USB ports. I use one for the Pi and one for an LED strip light around the frame. Here’s the one I normally order: http://a.co/evJGa7V

              @shbatm - I put one of those USB plugs on my motorcycle and it was insanely easy. They’re compact and push good current. That sounds like a good idea.

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                ctessier
                last edited by Apr 10, 2018, 5:48 PM

                Thank you guys!

                The 5V off the board sounds like a great idea, at least if the model I get has that (the pic on ebay seems to show it).

                But if I power the controller board with 12V 3A like recommended and pull 2 cables for a micro USB plug the 5V output (pins 3 and 5 (gnd) let’s say) for the RPI, how do I know how much amp the RPI could (or will) “suck” from there? Because obviously, the screen will drain some power, how can I know what would be left and won’t it be too much or too little?

                This is probably basic electronics, I will search on that now but if you have a simple answer for me, I’d take it!

                Thank you a lot!
                Clément

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                  emlowe Module Developer
                  last edited by Apr 10, 2018, 6:28 PM

                  I used a 12v 5a power supply with the same board - you don’t have to stick with 3a, that’s a minimum recommendation for the controller. So getting a 5a power supply should cover easily the controller and the rpi.

                  -Earle

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                    emlowe Module Developer
                    last edited by Apr 10, 2018, 6:50 PM

                    I’m terrible with the soldering iron but here is what I did

                    0_1523386207043_2018-04-10 11.41.00.jpg

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                      ctessier
                      last edited by Apr 10, 2018, 7:59 PM

                      Ok awesome thanks! Lucky for you we don’t see the solder on the picture ;) but I get what you did! Thanks a lot for the advise.

                      Will keep the post updated when I get the stuff

                      Clément

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