Hello community,

during the last months I read a lot here without beeing a member of this forum. The Magicmirror itself, your ideas and implementation is really facinating. You all do a great job, thank you.

Now, I am in the situation to give you something back and can help you to find the right glass for your magicmirror.

Short information about me: I am a Project Manager of an big german glass facade company. We process nearly 250.000 sqaremeters of glass every year. Through my Position, I have really good connections to the glass industry and was able to test some different samples during the last weeks. (first picture below)

Finally I found a glass, which is perfect for the Magicmirror. It is a combination between Spy Mirror and Sun Protection glass. It can’t be distinguished from a normal Mirror, the transmisson from behind is really good, it’s really thin and in this case really lightweight. The thickness of the Mirror is only 3mm and is unbelievable light (Calculation glassweight: area in squaremeters x thickness of the glass x 2,5 Example: A mirror with the measurements of 80x60 cm only weight 3,6 kg). I think this is the best mirror for our projects. (see the other 4 pictures, 2 x daylight outside , 2 x night outside)

Since the glass producer not supply his products to private individuals, I am able to order the mirrors through my company for you. The condition for an order is a min quantity of 20 squaremeters.

I opened this thread to help you finding the right mirror and to ask whether some of you are Interested in a bulk order. The gross price is 296 € per squarmeter including freight, energy costs and truck toll. I know, at first that sounds a lot, but when you calculate it for your nessasary mesurements (Height in meter x width in meter x 296 €, for example: 0,8m x 0,6m x 296 € = 142,08 Euro) I think the price is attractiv. The properties, espacially the thinness and the lightweight speaks for itself. The condition for each mirror is that your area must be more than 0,4 sqaremeter. This is necessary for the manufacturing process. The mirror can be produced millimeter-accurate. Shipping time from glass producer to me is about three weeks. then I will send it out to you or you can come to me and pick it up here.

I know that it is probably not the best price on market, but others sell 8mm thick mirrors which weight three times more than this one and the mirror surface looks darker than normal mirrors.

If there are enough interested members here, I wanna learn how to pack and send it out safety. Or you can come to me and pick it up by yourself too(Near Schweinfurt/Bavaria).

If you are interested, please comment this thread with your required measurements. Lets have a look, whether we can get the 20 sqaremeter.

I’m not a trader or something like that, in this case I can’t give you a bill. I only want to give you something back for the great support here. I hope I can help some of you.

Greetings

IN GERMAN

Hallo Community,

Ich bin schon seit einiger Zeit hier stiller Mitleser. Das Projekt Magicmirror selbst und eure Ideen und Umsetzungen sind wahnsinnig faszinierend. Ihr macht wirklich einen tollen Job! Danke dafür.

Nun bin ich in der Situation wo ich euch selbst etwas zurückgeben kann bzw. Euch bei der Glassuche eine neue Lösung präsentieren darf.

Kurz zu mir: Ich bin Projektleiter eines großen deutschen Glasfassadenbauers. Jährlich verarbeiten wir knapp 250.000 qm Glas. Aufgrund meiner Position im Unternehmen habe ich sehr gute Kontakte zur Glasindustrie und konnte die letzten Wochen viele Muster besorgen und diese testen. Hierzu habe ich euch ein Bild beigefügt, um den Testumfang zu veranschaulichen. (Siehe Bild 1)

Letztendlich habe ich ein Glas entdeckt, welches genau den Ansprüchen für den Bau eines MagicMirror entspricht. Hierbei handelt es sich um eine Mischung aus Spionglas und Sonnenschutzglas. Die Spiegelfläche ist nicht von einem normalen Spiegel zu unterscheiden, die Transmisson von hinten ist hervorragend, er ist sehr schmal und dadurch besonders Leicht. Da der Spiegel nur eine geringe Stärke von 3mm vorweist und dadurch unglaublich leicht ist (Die Formel zur Berechnung des Glasgewichtes lautet: Fläche in qm × Scheibendicke x 2,5, somit wiegt zum Beispiel ein Spiegel mit den Abmessungen 80x60cm nur 3,6 kg), handelt es sich meiner Meinung nach um die perfekte Lösung. (Siehe weitere 4 Bilder, 2 x bei Tageslicht, 2 x künstliche Beleuchtung bei Nacht draußen)

Da die Glaserei Ihre Produkte jedoch leider nicht für Privatanwender anbietet, könnte ich die Spiegel über die Firma bestellen. Die Bedingung hierfür ist eine Mindestabnahme von ca. 20qm. Das Glas ist ein Nischenprodukt, welches so normal nicht im Fassadenbau eingesetzt wird.

Ich habe diesen Thread eröffnet, um euch die Suche nach einem passenden Spiegel zu erleichtern und zu fragen, ob eurerseits Interesse an einer Sammelbestellung besteht.

Der Spiegel kostet 296 € pro Quadratmeter Brutto inkl. Fracht, Energie- und und Mautkosten. Dies klingt wahrscheinlich zunächst für den ein oder anderen nach sehr viel, aber wenn Ihr es für eure benötigte Größe berechnet (Höhe in m x Breite in m x 295 €, Als Beispiel der Spiegel von oben 0,8m x 0,6m x 295 € = 142,08 Euro), ist der Preis sicherlich attraktiv. Und die Eigenschaften, allen voran die Stärke und das Gewicht sprechen für sich. Voraussetzung ist, dass Ihr mit euren Maßen eine Mindestfläche von 0,4 qm generiert, da diese aus fertigungstechnischen Gründen erforderlich ist. Die Spiegel können Millimetergenau nach euren Ansprüchen gefertigt werden. Die Lieferzeit vom Lieferanten zu mir beträgt ca. 3 Wochen, von Zuhause aus würde ich es euch dann weiterschicken bzw. Könntet ihr es bei mir abholen.

Vielleicht gibt es auf dem Markt einen etwas besseren Preis, aber dann sind es 8mm dicke Scheiben, die das 3-fache wiegen und von der Spiegelfläche her etwas dunkel wirken.

Falls genug Interessenten da sind, würde ich mich mit dem Versand beschäftigen und wie ich es bruchsicher für euch verpacken könnte. Angeliefert werden die Spiegel bei mit zusammen auf einem Glasgestell. Den Versand würde ich euch dann zum Selbstkostenpreis anbieten. Eine Abholung Nähe Schweinfurt (Ziemlich Zentral in Deutschland) wäre auch möglich und bevorzugt.

Falls Interesse eurerseits besteht, kommentiert bitte diesen Thread mit euren Wunschabmessungen, damit ich sehen kann, ob wir die 20qm zusammenbekommen.

Ich bin weder Händler noch ein Unternehmer, daher kann ich euch auch keine Rechnung ausstellen. Ich möchte lediglich die Chance nutzen etwas zurückzugeben und hoffe ich kann den einen oder anderen weiterhelfen.

Viele Grüße

Hey guys, I’m pleased to inform you that the mirrors have arrived today

I have already picked them up and put it in my garage for packaging. Today I spent another 2-3 hours to unpack the mirrors, measure them, label each mirror with the correct name, sort and unload all the pieces. Now I have a good overview and tomorrow I will begin to pack the mirror in air cushion film Here are 2 pictures of today

On the mirrors is still a protective foil, so you can´t see the right mirror surface yet (the mirrors seem a bit darker than they really are)

Have built some crates today It is a lot of work but in this way guarantees that nothing will be broken here some pictures to keep you up to date

@frog Yes shipping to spain would be possible but I don´t know how high the shipping costs are.

@sero The mirror can be picked up in Bavaria, near Schweinfurt. Schweinfurt is very central located in Germany.

@Cato Shipping to Norway is also possible. If you are interested, I want to check the shipping costs.

@yawns I contacted the glass suplier. The edges are rough cutted. Polishing is possible for 7,30 €/m

@Dom1n1c @yawns The mirror in the top right corner is the Mirror from the producer of MyMirror. In my opinion it is in the direct comparison a way darker. That´s normal, because the thicker the glass, the lesser is the transmisson. That is also a normal behavior of normal Float glass.

@lolobyte The problem is, that 8mm glass is realy heavy. Almost three times heavier. Also see my post above to @Dom1n1c @yawns about the transmisson.

@done this mirror has an evaporated coating on a special sun
protection glass. so it has two layers, which make this mirror so clear and great. Yes it is a little more volunable to scratches than glass with a reflecting foil inside (because the foil is between two glasses and you can´t get any contact with it). However the version with the foil in the middle is really heavy, because you have two glasses and also two times weight. If you use your mirror normal and don´t use a key or a really dirty sponges to clean the mirror,scratches are no problem with the offered mirror

I would like to inform you again that the list will be closed this evening at 10 pm. All unconfirmed orders will be deleted at this time and changes will no longer be possible. New orders with pick up will be accepted until today at 10 pm with immediate confirmation. I am very happy to present your mirrors soon and wish you a nice Sunday

Good news guys the payments are now all arrived and complete. I will make the order tomorrow morning immediately It will then take about 3 weeks until the mirrors arrive at me;)

A big thank you goes to @ferby09, @Jeff and @sero who give a small tip.
And a very special thank you goes to @webmasterrm , who gave a bigger tip. Very nice gest of you, thanks

Enough done for today tomorrow it goes on I have a few very nice gifts for you in my garage

@strawberry-3-141 both have a contrast of 1000:1 and a brightness of 200 cd/qm

@bibi the light transmisson is approx. 24 %. You can Order too, but the minimum calculation area of the mirror is 0,4 qm. That means, if your mirror is smaller than that the glass Supplier can make it but you have to pay the Price for 0,4 squaremeter.

@Ashidian
Currently a total of 4 payments are still missing. 2 of which are still missing completely and the other two were not in the sum completely the order I have already prepared on my table lie. As soon as all payments have arrived, I’ll send the order straight out I think it will be the latest Wednesday. I will keep you up to date

Yes the art forwarding was yesterday here, however his transporter was not adequately prepared. That was then too uncertain to give him the mirrors. He will build a device tomorrow to safely transport the mirrors. The security of your mirrors is the most important!

I will start a new order after the others received their mirrors. I think in two weeks the new Order will start

Jepp, sorry. @kzol24 is owner of the leftover mirror

small update: today I received the final delivery date. The mirrors will arrive at my place next Thursday, July 16, 2020

Always a new topic. but only when everything is finished here

If someone new need a mirror faster:
I still have a mirror with the dimensions 0.8 x 0.5 m and polished edges from the last order left, because the user has not paid. The mirror is already packed and could therefore be sent immediately

the amount is 165,40 €
Which consists of the following costs:
• Mirror price: 142,00 €
• Polished edges: 23,40 €

+Shipping costs

please let me know if anyone is interested

@malevolent @kzol24

@malevolent said in Two way community order for mirror glass for all european countries - Open until at least 10 people have entered the list:

Damn it! I’m too late, isn’t it?

Jep, sorry

short update for you:

yesterday I finally received the last payment and ordered the mirrors right away. According to the current status, these should arrive on July 13, 2020. In the meantime, I will prepare the wooden boxes so that I can distribute the mirrors to you immediately and without much delay

Best regards
Chris

Unfortunately, gdr2404 has not yet reported.
Therefore we will now proceed with the order. He had enough time now …

I sent you your payment information by private message. As soon as I have received all payments, I will order the glass and arrange the production of the mirror. It will then take about 3 weeks until it is here with me.

In the meantime, I will build the shipping wooden boxes for each of you so that the mirrors can be packed immediately after these three weeks and sent to you. I will then distribute the shipment numbers to all of you

Thank you
Chriz

we are still waiting for gdr2404. It would now be unfair to take further steps without him even though he has now waited a few weeks / months too. We do not exclude anyone, maybe he is on a business trip or something and therefore can not answer at the moment If he has not reported by next Tuesday, we can continue without him. Nur before that I want to give him this time

@photon2000-0 said in Two way community order for mirror glass for all european countries - Open until at least 10 people have entered the list:

@Goldjunge_Chriz : I intend to glue an aluminum profile and some magnets on the back of the mirror. What kind of glue do you recommend for that?

I would use a special mirror adhesive tape with which you can also stick normal mirrors to the wall

All conditions are in the first Post of this thread