Hello community,

during the last months I read a lot here without beeing a member of this forum. The Magicmirror itself, your ideas and implementation is really facinating. You all do a great job, thank you.

Now, I am in the situation to give you something back and can help you to find the right glass for your magicmirror.

Short information about me: I am a Project Manager of an big german glass facade company. We process nearly 250.000 sqaremeters of glass every year. Through my Position, I have really good connections to the glass industry and was able to test some different samples during the last weeks. (first picture below)

Finally I found a glass, which is perfect for the Magicmirror. It is a combination between Spy Mirror and Sun Protection glass. It can’t be distinguished from a normal Mirror, the transmisson from behind is really good, it’s really thin and in this case really lightweight. The thickness of the Mirror is only 3mm and is unbelievable light (Calculation glassweight: area in squaremeters x thickness of the glass x 2,5 Example: A mirror with the measurements of 80x60 cm only weight 3,6 kg). I think this is the best mirror for our projects. (see the other 4 pictures, 2 x daylight outside , 2 x night outside)

Since the glass producer not supply his products to private individuals, I am able to order the mirrors through my company for you. The condition for an order is a min quantity of 20 squaremeters.

I opened this thread to help you finding the right mirror and to ask whether some of you are Interested in a bulk order. The gross price is 296 € per squarmeter including freight, energy costs and truck toll. I know, at first that sounds a lot, but when you calculate it for your nessasary mesurements (Height in meter x width in meter x 296 €, for example: 0,8m x 0,6m x 296 € = 142,08 Euro) I think the price is attractiv. The properties, espacially the thinness and the lightweight speaks for itself. The condition for each mirror is that your area must be more than 0,4 sqaremeter. This is necessary for the manufacturing process. The mirror can be produced millimeter-accurate. Shipping time from glass producer to me is about three weeks. then I will send it out to you or you can come to me and pick it up here.

I know that it is probably not the best price on market, but others sell 8mm thick mirrors which weight three times more than this one and the mirror surface looks darker than normal mirrors.

If there are enough interested members here, I wanna learn how to pack and send it out safety. Or you can come to me and pick it up by yourself too(Near Schweinfurt/Bavaria).

If you are interested, please comment this thread with your required measurements. Lets have a look, whether we can get the 20 sqaremeter.

I’m not a trader or something like that, in this case I can’t give you a bill. I only want to give you something back for the great support here. I hope I can help some of you.

Greetings

IN GERMAN

Hallo Community,

Ich bin schon seit einiger Zeit hier stiller Mitleser. Das Projekt Magicmirror selbst und eure Ideen und Umsetzungen sind wahnsinnig faszinierend. Ihr macht wirklich einen tollen Job! Danke dafür.

Nun bin ich in der Situation wo ich euch selbst etwas zurückgeben kann bzw. Euch bei der Glassuche eine neue Lösung präsentieren darf.

Kurz zu mir: Ich bin Projektleiter eines großen deutschen Glasfassadenbauers. Jährlich verarbeiten wir knapp 250.000 qm Glas. Aufgrund meiner Position im Unternehmen habe ich sehr gute Kontakte zur Glasindustrie und konnte die letzten Wochen viele Muster besorgen und diese testen. Hierzu habe ich euch ein Bild beigefügt, um den Testumfang zu veranschaulichen. (Siehe Bild 1)

Letztendlich habe ich ein Glas entdeckt, welches genau den Ansprüchen für den Bau eines MagicMirror entspricht. Hierbei handelt es sich um eine Mischung aus Spionglas und Sonnenschutzglas. Die Spiegelfläche ist nicht von einem normalen Spiegel zu unterscheiden, die Transmisson von hinten ist hervorragend, er ist sehr schmal und dadurch besonders Leicht. Da der Spiegel nur eine geringe Stärke von 3mm vorweist und dadurch unglaublich leicht ist (Die Formel zur Berechnung des Glasgewichtes lautet: Fläche in qm × Scheibendicke x 2,5, somit wiegt zum Beispiel ein Spiegel mit den Abmessungen 80x60cm nur 3,6 kg), handelt es sich meiner Meinung nach um die perfekte Lösung. (Siehe weitere 4 Bilder, 2 x bei Tageslicht, 2 x künstliche Beleuchtung bei Nacht draußen)

Da die Glaserei Ihre Produkte jedoch leider nicht für Privatanwender anbietet, könnte ich die Spiegel über die Firma bestellen. Die Bedingung hierfür ist eine Mindestabnahme von ca. 20qm. Das Glas ist ein Nischenprodukt, welches so normal nicht im Fassadenbau eingesetzt wird.

Ich habe diesen Thread eröffnet, um euch die Suche nach einem passenden Spiegel zu erleichtern und zu fragen, ob eurerseits Interesse an einer Sammelbestellung besteht.

Der Spiegel kostet 296 € pro Quadratmeter Brutto inkl. Fracht, Energie- und und Mautkosten. Dies klingt wahrscheinlich zunächst für den ein oder anderen nach sehr viel, aber wenn Ihr es für eure benötigte Größe berechnet (Höhe in m x Breite in m x 295 €, Als Beispiel der Spiegel von oben 0,8m x 0,6m x 295 € = 142,08 Euro), ist der Preis sicherlich attraktiv. Und die Eigenschaften, allen voran die Stärke und das Gewicht sprechen für sich. Voraussetzung ist, dass Ihr mit euren Maßen eine Mindestfläche von 0,4 qm generiert, da diese aus fertigungstechnischen Gründen erforderlich ist. Die Spiegel können Millimetergenau nach euren Ansprüchen gefertigt werden. Die Lieferzeit vom Lieferanten zu mir beträgt ca. 3 Wochen, von Zuhause aus würde ich es euch dann weiterschicken bzw. Könntet ihr es bei mir abholen.

Vielleicht gibt es auf dem Markt einen etwas besseren Preis, aber dann sind es 8mm dicke Scheiben, die das 3-fache wiegen und von der Spiegelfläche her etwas dunkel wirken.

Falls genug Interessenten da sind, würde ich mich mit dem Versand beschäftigen und wie ich es bruchsicher für euch verpacken könnte. Angeliefert werden die Spiegel bei mit zusammen auf einem Glasgestell. Den Versand würde ich euch dann zum Selbstkostenpreis anbieten. Eine Abholung Nähe Schweinfurt (Ziemlich Zentral in Deutschland) wäre auch möglich und bevorzugt.

Falls Interesse eurerseits besteht, kommentiert bitte diesen Thread mit euren Wunschabmessungen, damit ich sehen kann, ob wir die 20qm zusammenbekommen.

Ich bin weder Händler noch ein Unternehmer, daher kann ich euch auch keine Rechnung ausstellen. Ich möchte lediglich die Chance nutzen etwas zurückzugeben und hoffe ich kann den einen oder anderen weiterhelfen.

Viele Grüße

Hey guys, I’m pleased to inform you that the mirrors have arrived today

I have already picked them up and put it in my garage for packaging. Today I spent another 2-3 hours to unpack the mirrors, measure them, label each mirror with the correct name, sort and unload all the pieces. Now I have a good overview and tomorrow I will begin to pack the mirror in air cushion film Here are 2 pictures of today

On the mirrors is still a protective foil, so you can´t see the right mirror surface yet (the mirrors seem a bit darker than they really are)

Have built some crates today It is a lot of work but in this way guarantees that nothing will be broken here some pictures to keep you up to date

@frog Yes shipping to spain would be possible but I don´t know how high the shipping costs are.

@sero The mirror can be picked up in Bavaria, near Schweinfurt. Schweinfurt is very central located in Germany.

@Cato Shipping to Norway is also possible. If you are interested, I want to check the shipping costs.

@yawns I contacted the glass suplier. The edges are rough cutted. Polishing is possible for 7,30 €/m

@Dom1n1c @yawns The mirror in the top right corner is the Mirror from the producer of MyMirror. In my opinion it is in the direct comparison a way darker. That´s normal, because the thicker the glass, the lesser is the transmisson. That is also a normal behavior of normal Float glass.

@lolobyte The problem is, that 8mm glass is realy heavy. Almost three times heavier. Also see my post above to @Dom1n1c @yawns about the transmisson.

@done this mirror has an evaporated coating on a special sun
protection glass. so it has two layers, which make this mirror so clear and great. Yes it is a little more volunable to scratches than glass with a reflecting foil inside (because the foil is between two glasses and you can´t get any contact with it). However the version with the foil in the middle is really heavy, because you have two glasses and also two times weight. If you use your mirror normal and don´t use a key or a really dirty sponges to clean the mirror,scratches are no problem with the offered mirror

I would like to inform you again that the list will be closed this evening at 10 pm. All unconfirmed orders will be deleted at this time and changes will no longer be possible. New orders with pick up will be accepted until today at 10 pm with immediate confirmation. I am very happy to present your mirrors soon and wish you a nice Sunday

Good news guys the payments are now all arrived and complete. I will make the order tomorrow morning immediately It will then take about 3 weeks until the mirrors arrive at me;)

A big thank you goes to @ferby09, @Jeff and @sero who give a small tip.
And a very special thank you goes to @webmasterrm , who gave a bigger tip. Very nice gest of you, thanks

Enough done for today tomorrow it goes on I have a few very nice gifts for you in my garage

@strawberry-3-141 both have a contrast of 1000:1 and a brightness of 200 cd/qm

@bibi the light transmisson is approx. 24 %. You can Order too, but the minimum calculation area of the mirror is 0,4 qm. That means, if your mirror is smaller than that the glass Supplier can make it but you have to pay the Price for 0,4 squaremeter.

@Ashidian
Currently a total of 4 payments are still missing. 2 of which are still missing completely and the other two were not in the sum completely the order I have already prepared on my table lie. As soon as all payments have arrived, I’ll send the order straight out I think it will be the latest Wednesday. I will keep you up to date

Yes the art forwarding was yesterday here, however his transporter was not adequately prepared. That was then too uncertain to give him the mirrors. He will build a device tomorrow to safely transport the mirrors. The security of your mirrors is the most important!

unfortunately not all of you managed to pay…
I did it again and have now made advance payments again because I believe in the good in people and the community. these are entries that have been on the list for a very, very long time. It would be disappointing for those concerned if the respective entries had to wait for the next bulk order and I don’t want to annoy anyone. It is a total of two mirrors that have not yet been paid for. I hope I made the right decision…

Now the good News: I commissioned the production of the mirrors this morning the production time is currently 4-5 weeks. In the meantime I am already building all the shipping boxes so that the mirrors can be sent out to you all within 2-3 days of arriving at my place

@malevolent said in *NEW LIST 23.08.2020* Two way community order for mirror glass for all european countries - Open until at least 10 people have entered:

How much time we will wait for those who haven’t paid yet? I don’t know other people, but I’m waiting since the last community order back in June 2020, and I’m quite anxious to get finally mine. And now we finally have a closed list, waiting for people to pay is a bit infuriating.
Could you please set a time deadline for those who didn’t pay yet? I found a lack of respect to make wait 15 people for 2 without a deadline. I would find reasonable to wait until the end of this month, it would be almost an entire month timeframe, in my opinion I think it is time more than sufficient.

I have already set a deadline for the people until this sunday. I am sorry, but since the mirrors are custom-made, I have to collect the money beforehand. Such a community order is also based on trust, loyalty and responsibility to others. Unfortunately, there are always outliers. but you also have to consider that those maybe have also waited a long time and are then disappointed when they are thrown off the list because of a vacation or similar and they have not noticed the start of the order.

In the past, I went in advance with the payment in such cases, but unfortunately I was left sitting on the mirror and the money a few times (people have not contacted me at all or had no more money). And to sell a custom-made mirror with very special dimensions elsewhere is very difficult. Therefore, I no longer go with the payment in advance.

@internetpolice said in *NEW LIST 23.08.2020* Two way community order for mirror glass for all european countries - Open until at least 10 people have entered:

I would appreciate a weekly update if possible.

two payments are still missing and yours is not yet complete

@malevolent said in *NEW LIST 23.08.2020* Two way community order for mirror glass for all european countries - Open until at least 10 people have entered:

when we can expect the mirrors to be shipped?

I will keep you up to date. but since not all payments have been received I cannot have the mirrors produced yet. it lasts as something else.

Small intermediate result:
Unfortunately, 5 incoming payments are currently missing. I would like to ask the affected users to complete the payment as soon as possible so that I can finally order and those who have already paid do not have to wait that long

Many Thanks

@internetpolice said in *NEW LIST 23.08.2020* Two way community order for mirror glass for all european countries - Open until at least 10 people have entered:

@Goldjunge_Chriz do you know the specific weight of the mirror?

7,5 kg/m2

FINAL LIST - CLOSED

@Azra
@nunoary

I now give you until Easter Monday, April 5th, 2021, time to confirm your order. otherwise I have to cross you off the list, because I don’t want to keep the others waiting any longer

@dalusik said in *NEW LIST 23.08.2020* Two way community order for mirror glass for all european countries - Open until at least 10 people have entered:

Hello, @goldjunge_chriz

is it still possible to add an order?

thanks,
d.

You are still welcome to sign up if you also confirm bindingly right away.