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PIR Sensor: false positive detections

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  • F Offline
    Fozi Project Sponsor @Zoltan
    last edited by Nov 22, 2021, 3:12 PM

    @zoltan Really nice build!Congrats!
    Yeah, a low-pass filter can solve the interferences from the WiFi module, too, of course. But due to my lazyness and impatience I sacrificed an old VGA cable and re-used the ferrite bead:beaming_face_with_smiling_eyes:

    HowTo: Replace PIR Sensor with a RCWL-0516 Microwave Sensor

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      MZ-BER
      last edited by Nov 22, 2021, 3:17 PM

      Hey folks - thanks for your answers. I decided to goahed with a RCWL-0516. But have the same issues. I’m testing the sensitivity with a python script. I also covered it in alu foil - no change. Now I ordered a ferrite beat and will add to the cables (around all of the them or only GND, 5v or Output?)

      I’m also thinking about adding a low pass filter, but I have no experience with that. Where do I have to add that? GND & Output?

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        Fozi Project Sponsor @MZ-BER
        last edited by Nov 22, 2021, 3:25 PM

        @mz-ber Just put all wires through the bead.
        With the RCWL-0516 you should note that they can be very sensitive (up to 7m on free sight) and detect motion even through walls. First I went the alu foil route, too, but then modded my RCWL-0516 with a trimmer. Now the mirror is triggered when I approach the mirror less than 1m. Check the link in my signature for details, if you like.

        HowTo: Replace PIR Sensor with a RCWL-0516 Microwave Sensor

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          MZ-BER @Fozi
          last edited by Nov 22, 2021, 4:39 PM

          @fozi Yes! I followed your instructions in detail - that was very helpful. And yes, I noticed how sensitive it is. In your tutorial you removed the the tiny SMD resistor soldered and replaced that. What if I just remove it and not replace it. Is the range than completely gone and doesent work anymore?

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            MZ-BER @Zoltan
            last edited by MZ-BER Nov 22, 2021, 6:52 PM Nov 22, 2021, 4:49 PM

            Hi @zoltan - I was reviewing your tutorial. Really good documented. I have a question about the wiring drawing you shared. I’m new to it and dont understand everything. But I’m a fast learner :-)

            In your drawing you added a couple of symbols. I guess these are resistors and filters, right?

            Numbers 1, 2 and 3 look similar, only with a diffrent capacity. Is that a Capacitor?
            What are 4 and 5? Is that a conductor? What capacity is here needed?
            And number 6, not sure. Is that a RND or a resistor?

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              Fozi Project Sponsor @MZ-BER
              last edited by Nov 22, 2021, 6:00 PM

              @mz-ber If you remove the resistor completely without any replacement the sensor won’t work any more.

              HowTo: Replace PIR Sensor with a RCWL-0516 Microwave Sensor

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                thgmirror
                last edited by thgmirror Nov 22, 2021, 6:02 PM Nov 22, 2021, 6:01 PM

                Didn’t I said, I’m not an electrician?
                It is not a step-down/up … it is called Pull-Up, resp Pull-Down.
                Please see here for detailed (german) explanation: https://www.elektronik-kompendium.de/sites/raspberry-pi/2006051.htm

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                  MZ-BER @thgmirror
                  last edited by Nov 22, 2021, 6:50 PM

                  @thgmirror Yep, that is what I’ll do next. Already ordered a starter kit with resistors, inductors and capacitors.

                  I also noticed, even if I added the ferrite beat, that the sensor recevied every minute excact on the second a signal

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                    Fozi Project Sponsor @thgmirror
                    last edited by Nov 23, 2021, 7:43 AM

                    @thgmirror said in PIR Sensor: false positive detections:

                    It is not a step-down/up … it is called Pull-Up, resp Pull-Down.

                    Are you dealing with 3D printing? Just asking, because step-down converters are quite popular for modding cooling fans in that hobby :beaming_face_with_smiling_eyes:

                    HowTo: Replace PIR Sensor with a RCWL-0516 Microwave Sensor

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                      thgmirror @Fozi
                      last edited by Nov 23, 2021, 9:13 AM

                      @fozi no, currently no 3D-printing, but may be in the future:-)

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