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    pm2 doesnt work with crontab

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    • plainbrokeP Offline
      plainbroke @sdetweil
      last edited by plainbroke

      @sdetweil
      Using NVMe disk 256gb smallest I had on hand. 3 of them are exhibiting the same issues. I did try going back to Bookworm and I am still getthing a blank screen after a while. I ran npm run config:check it says all is good in the config.js ////
      I am currently reloading from scratch.
      Which OS is better for the 2.33 MM? 32 or 64 bit?
      Wondering if I was using 32 bit and now the 64 bit is messing with me… So dang many things can mess with these little devices.

      I only use crontab -e, should I try sudo crontab -e

      Slow learner. But trying anyways.
      MM is on Raspberry Pi 4B w/8gb ram loaded on a 128gb nvme drive.
      Running Trixie and the latest MM version.

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        sdetweil @plainbroke
        last edited by sdetweil

        @plainbroke no, without sudo is best

        Maybe pm2 isn’t in the path when crontab fires
        Check the syslog for crontab errors

        32 bit is about to be trouble.

        The latest nodejs version, 24, has dropped builds for 32 bit

        Sam

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        • plainbrokeP Offline
          plainbroke @sdetweil
          last edited by plainbroke

          @sdetweil
          Thanks for the info I almost pulled down 32 bit.
          It has been interesting to say the least going to trixie.
          Turns out my problem was a failed NVMe drive.
          I thought those things where supposed to last for a LONG long time…
          I did get crontab -e to work with trixie and MM 2.33 not a fun ride, but entertaining. I finally learned how to use bash to make batch style files…
          So not a complete loss of time…

          Slow learner. But trying anyways.
          MM is on Raspberry Pi 4B w/8gb ram loaded on a 128gb nvme drive.
          Running Trixie and the latest MM version.

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            sdetweil @plainbroke
            last edited by

            @plainbroke technology is SOOOO much fun! Simple, til it’s not!

            Thanks for the feedback. Others will ask, I’m sure they could use your help!

            Sam

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            • plainbrokeP Offline
              plainbroke @sdetweil
              last edited by plainbroke

              @sdetweil
              Ok crontab -e worked last night to shutdown MM. So the pm2 stop all worked.
              BUT this morning the pm2 restart mm did nothing.
              I used find to get these:

              /home/pi/MagicMirror/node_modules/.bin/pm2
              /home/pi/MagicMirror/node_modules/pm2
              /home/pi/MagicMirror/node_modules/pm2/bin/pm2
              /home/pi/MagicMirror/node_modules/pm2/lib/templates/logrotate.d/pm2
              /home/pi/MagicMirror/node_modules/pm2/pm2
              /usr/local/bin/pm2
              /usr/local/lib/node_modules/pm2
              /usr/local/lib/node_modules/pm2/bin/pm2
              /usr/local/lib/node_modules/pm2/lib/templates/logrotate.d/pm2
              /usr/local/lib/node_modules/pm2/pm2
              
              

              ANY idea on which one would work better.?
              Here is my current crontab -e

              # Turn off display at 9pm
              00 21 * * 0-6 /usr/local/bin/pm2 stop all >/dev/null >2&1
              # Turn on screen Monday - Friday at 6:45 am
              45 06 * * 1-5 /usr/local/bin/pm2 start mm >/dev/null >2&1
              # Turn on screen Saturday - Sunday at 7:30 am
              30 07 * * 6,0 /usr/local/bin/pm2 start mm >/dev/null >2&1
              
              

              Slow learner. But trying anyways.
              MM is on Raspberry Pi 4B w/8gb ram loaded on a 128gb nvme drive.
              Running Trixie and the latest MM version.

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                sdetweil @plainbroke
                last edited by sdetweil

                @plainbroke which one, if any , are in the path
                Are they all executable?

                ls -laF
                Will give you the permissions mask

                Are any of them links to another?

                What changed?

                /usr/local/bin/pm2
                Should be the one

                Sam

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                  sdetweil @plainbroke
                  last edited by

                  @plainbroke also look in /var/log/syslog
                  To find the logging of the execute at the time it should fire

                  Sam

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                  • plainbrokeP Offline
                    plainbroke @sdetweil
                    last edited by

                    @sdetweil
                    Weird, I do not have /var/log/syslog.
                    Even did a find for it nothing, popped up…

                    pi@Pixie:~ $ ls -laF
                    total 348
                    drwx------ 15 pi   pi     4096 Nov 10 15:36 ./
                    drwxr-xr-x  3 root root   4096 Sep 30 19:18 ../
                    -rw-------  1 pi   pi     9080 Nov 10 13:17 .bash_history
                    -rw-r--r--  1 pi   pi      220 Sep 30 19:06 .bash_logout
                    -rw-r--r--  1 pi   pi     3523 Sep 30 19:06 .bashrc
                    drwx------ 13 pi   pi     4096 Nov  7 18:22 .cache/
                    drwx------ 22 pi   pi     4096 Nov  8 12:57 .config/
                    drwx------  3 pi   pi     4096 Nov  7 17:49 .dbus/
                    drwxrwxr-x  2 pi   pi     4096 Sep 30 19:17 Desktop/
                    drwx------  2 pi   pi     4096 Nov  7 23:11 Documents/
                    -rw-rw-r--  1 pi   pi        0 Nov  7 20:00 .gitconfig
                    -rw-rw-r--  1 pi   pi       81 Nov  7 18:24 .gtkrc-2.0
                    -rw-rw-r--  1 pi   pi   222126 Oct 27 18:52 install.log
                    drwx------  4 pi   pi     4096 Sep 30 19:18 .local/
                    drwxrwxr-x 16 pi   pi     4096 Nov  8 12:54 MagicMirror/
                    -rwxrwxrwx  1 pi   pi      320 Jun 12  2022 mm.json*
                    -rwxrwxrwx  1 pi   pi       38 Jul 16  2023 mm.sh*
                    drwx------  4 pi   pi     4096 Nov  6 21:05 .mozilla/
                    drwxrwxr-x  4 pi   pi     4096 Oct 27 18:30 .npm/
                    drwx------  3 pi   pi     4096 Oct 27 18:52 .pki/
                    drwxrwxr-x  5 pi   pi     4096 Nov  9 17:24 .pm2/
                    -rw-r--r--  1 pi   pi      807 Sep 30 19:06 .profile
                    -rw-rw-r--  1 pi   pi       66 Oct 27 19:22 .selected_editor
                    drwxrwxr-x  4 pi   pi     4096 Nov 10 15:43 shared/
                    -rw-r--r--  1 pi   pi        0 Sep 30 19:18 .sudo_as_admin_successful
                    drwx------  3 pi   pi     4096 Nov  5 17:30 .vnc/
                    -rw-------  1 pi   pi       50 Nov  9 17:24 .Xauthority
                    -rw-------  1 pi   pi     8238 Nov  9 19:32 .xsession-errors
                    -rw-------  1 pi   pi     7945 Nov  9 17:24 .xsession-errors.old
                    
                    

                    Slow learner. But trying anyways.
                    MM is on Raspberry Pi 4B w/8gb ram loaded on a 128gb nvme drive.
                    Running Trixie and the latest MM version.

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                    • mumblebajM Offline
                      mumblebaj Module Developer @plainbroke
                      last edited by

                      @plainbroke Instead of piping the output to a blackhole, maybe pipe it to a logfile which you can interrogate to see why the pm2 start is not working?

                      Check out my modules at: https://github.com/mumblebaj?tab=repositories
                      Check my blog-post: https://mumblebaj.xyz/
                      Check my MM Container: https://hub.docker.com/repository/docker/mumblebaj/magicmirror/general

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                      • evroomE Offline
                        evroom @mumblebaj
                        last edited by

                        About /var/log/syslog.
                        Debian does not use that anymore, already since a while.
                        As far as I understand it, you will need to get familiar with journalctl.
                        For cron jobs try this:

                        $ journalctl --since "1 hour ago" --unit cron.service
                        
                        $ journalctl -f -u cron.service
                        

                        Happy hunting.

                        MagicMirror version: 2.33.0
                        Raspberry Pi 4 Model B Rev 1.5 (8 GB RAM)
                        Raspbian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)

                        Test environment:
                        MagicMirror version: v2.33.0
                        Raspberry Pi 3 Model B Plus Rev 1.3 (1 GB RAM)
                        Raspbian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)

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                        • plainbrokeP Offline
                          plainbroke @evroom
                          last edited by

                          @evroom,
                          I get that nothing is found, when I run either of your suggestions.

                          @mumblebaj
                          Explain piping, Please…

                          Slow learner. But trying anyways.
                          MM is on Raspberry Pi 4B w/8gb ram loaded on a 128gb nvme drive.
                          Running Trixie and the latest MM version.

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                            sdetweil @plainbroke
                            last edited by sdetweil

                            @plainbroke piping is a technique of stitching together multiple commands to accomplish a task

                            The vertical bar is called the pipe character
                            Which takes the output of the left side and presents it as input to the right side , so its like forming a pipe

                            When I want to find all the MagicMirror processes running in the background I do this

                            ps -ef
                            

                            This give the processes and the command line used to start them
                            But is a lot of data

                            So I can filter that with grep , and I can pass in data on its stdin

                            ps -ef | grep -i MagicMirror 
                            

                            That gives just the rows of the process list with MagicMirror on them

                            But if I want to kill them I need the process id on each row
                            That’s the second value on each row
                            I can use the awk command to get that

                            ps -ef | grep -i MagicMirror | awk ‘{ print $2}’
                            

                            Now I have the process ids and can issue the kill command with them

                            ps -ef | grep -i MagicMirror | awk ‘{ print $2}’ |  xargs sudo  kill -9
                            

                            Sam

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                            • evroomE Offline
                              evroom @plainbroke
                              last edited by

                              @plainbroke said in pm2 doesnt work with crontab:

                              @evroom,
                              I get that nothing is found, when I run either of your suggestions.

                              The journalctl -f shows the current activities.
                              Simular to tail -f <filename>.
                              So when there are none, you will see none.
                              Use that when you know that a cron job is going to occur anytime soon.
                              The --since "1 hour ago" searches for activities in the last hour.
                              Change to, for example --since "24 hours ago" for activities in the last 24 hours.
                              When nothing comes out, then indeed nothing happened (during the time period you are searching in).

                              Other --since options:

                              "today"
                              "00:20"
                              "2025-11-12"
                              "2025-11-12 07:30:00"
                              

                              MagicMirror version: 2.33.0
                              Raspberry Pi 4 Model B Rev 1.5 (8 GB RAM)
                              Raspbian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)

                              Test environment:
                              MagicMirror version: v2.33.0
                              Raspberry Pi 3 Model B Plus Rev 1.3 (1 GB RAM)
                              Raspbian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)

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                              • mumblebajM Offline
                                mumblebaj Module Developer @plainbroke
                                last edited by

                                @plainbroke Afternoon. What I was saying was that instead of sending your current output to a blackhole, >/dev/null >2&1, i meant sending it to a log file:
                                30 07 * * 6,0 /usr/local/bin/pm2 start mm >> /home/pi/mon.log 2>&1. This will send the output of the command /usr/local/bin/ pm2 start mm to a log file residing at /home/pi/mof.log. You can then interrogate this log file to see if there were any errors when the command was executed.

                                So, by pipe I meant redirect the output to somewhere.

                                Check out my modules at: https://github.com/mumblebaj?tab=repositories
                                Check my blog-post: https://mumblebaj.xyz/
                                Check my MM Container: https://hub.docker.com/repository/docker/mumblebaj/magicmirror/general

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                                • plainbrokeP Offline
                                  plainbroke
                                  last edited by

                                  @mumblebaj
                                  @sdetweil
                                  @evroom
                                  Thank you all for the information.
                                  I did not get to use it BUT I will save this information, so I do not have to ask again.
                                  I woke up this morning and crontab -e had started my MM like old times… It also shutdown MM last night like it used to…
                                  Tech is great when it does not try to give me a headache, trying to figure it out…

                                  Thanks again guys for all your help.
                                  I think I will close this as solved.
                                  Just Jeff

                                  Slow learner. But trying anyways.
                                  MM is on Raspberry Pi 4B w/8gb ram loaded on a 128gb nvme drive.
                                  Running Trixie and the latest MM version.

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                                    sdetweil @plainbroke
                                    last edited by

                                    @plainbroke awesome! Thanks for the feedback

                                    Sam

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