Read the statement by Michael Teeuw here.
Is there a "Rasbian simulation enviroment" for windows??
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Hi all,
I have a question and perhaps I’m asking in at the wrong forum but here goes:
I would like to know if there is a way to have Rasbian installed somehow under Windows so I can run MM2 and install and test modules I would like to ad to my MagicMirror. Sometimes during the day I have some spare time and would like to work on my MM but I can’t bring my Pi and work on it directly.
So some sort of simulation program would be ideaal.
This should run on a company laptop so network changes are a no-go.Hope some of you are doing what I’m looking for already and can help me with it.
Thanks in advance!
With kind regards,
Mike -
really the best you could do is install a linux virtual machine… using VMWare Player (free) and ubuntu (free)…
but on a work machine?? that usually leads to bad things happening…
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@sdetweil Thanks for replying.
A few question:- do I need both VMWare player and Ubuntu? Or just VMWare player and load the latest Raspbian image in it?
- I have admin rights on this laptop. :smiling_face:
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I agree to @sdetweil
Better think twice about fiddling around with your company laptop. I don’t know you, I don’t know your job nor your boss, but it could cause trouble doing such private stuff on a company issued device.That being said you could simply install node.js on the machine, start your mirror in serveronly mode and connect Chrome to the localhost ip address.
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vmware player is the thing that gives u the ability to run another OS on top of windows as an app.
raspian hardware is different than what windows runs on, so it wont run in that virtual machine on windows
(only intel or amd processor supported OS’s)but you can get ‘close’ with ubuntu instead
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Thanks for the reply’s. Reading your posts I think I’ll buy a 11 inch HDMI screen from aliexpress and take my Pi 3B+ with me to work after all.
I’m just starting with a Raspberry Pi (and Linux) and I don’t want to screw-up this laptop. :smiling_face_with_open_mouth_cold_sweat:I thought … I hoped it would be easy to do, but the risk is bigger then taking my Pi with me every day. Who knows… I could even build a sort of “laptop” like contraption with a screen from Aliexpress, a bluetooth keyboard and a Pi.
Thanks anyway for your help and tips! :thumbs_up: :thumbs_up: :thumbs_up: -
Raspbian OS(Stretch) is derived from Debian Stretch. The environment is almost same, but some H/W dependent feature will be another issue.
Anyway, I’m using just OSX for development. Most of *nix system is not so different with that of Raspberry. -
@mwel1977 you wouldn’t need the screen… you could do MM as remote in a browser, and SSH into the pi and winscp to copy/edit files
thats what I do… pi is on the other side of the room… do all work from windows
works great…
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@sean right… thats why I said he could get ‘close’… only a few hardware dependant things…
sensor stuff maybe… i use a webcam for motion detection… don’t know (haven’t looked) to see if supported on ubuntu intel… but probably)
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@sdetweil I have setup SSH on my Pi to, but I don’t work at home. :smiling_face_with_open_mouth_cold_sweat:
And I know that the wifi network here at work is setup not to allow other hardware other then those that have company certificates.
So at work I can’t use SSH and would need to work directly on my Pi.
So a small portable screen would work for me.Or…I could install ALL the modules from the list and change the config.js file on my windows laptop and test it when I come home! :face_with_tears_of_joy: :face_with_tears_of_joy: :face_with_tears_of_joy:
:confounded_face: :confounded_face: That’s going to take like…forever! :dizzy_face: :dizzy_face: :dizzy_face:
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@mwel1977 - I’m not sure of your job position or duties, but I think you can make a decent argument to your corporate management that you are expanding your skills and experience with Unix-like environments, plus your skills with virtual machines. If your company does anything with cloud computing or virtual desktops, you can make a strong case that you are using down time to increase your value to the company.
Running VMWare or MS Hypervisor on your laptop and spinning up a small Ubuntu server to experiment upon will teach you a lot of things unrelated to the Magic Mirror. If you really want to be sure, ask your supervisor if you can use your work laptop to teach yourself about virtual machines and Unix/Linux/Debian/Ubuntu. People with Unix skills are in high demand. People with experience with virtual machines are also valuable, especially in this age of cloud computing.
Now the downside: Anything you develop on your work laptop while at work belongs to your company. It’s not yours. So if you create a cool module for us, you don’t actually own it. Don’t expect that you do.
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On your work laptop ANYWHERE ANYTIME doesn’t belong to you
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@bhepler I’m actualy part of a group formed here at the company by the company we call “Hackthon team”. It’s purpose being to create tools for coworkers to make work faster, better and to reduce stress. As a 3D modeller (structural modeller) I’m a Autodesk Dynamo “expert”.
Dynamo is program for a visual scripting and has it’s own “nodes” but it can also read Python.And that’s why I bought Arduino boards and now Raspberry pi (nano W, 2B and 3B+)
Me being a person that need the hands-on learning curve (instead of reading a book and I can create a program in Python) would like to build something and start making a add-on for that something to get to know Python (or some other for of programming).Because now and then I have to wait for data and would like to use that time to learn.
And having a Pi running in a virtual enviroment would be awesome.
I know what I develop here doesn’t belong to me, but when I learn during the down time at work and create something on my real Pi at home does! :smiling_face_with_halo: -
@sdetweil I know… :pensive_face: :crying_face:
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@mwel1977 i have had the fun battle with my employer over work done on my OWN TIME and OWN equipment… those intellectual property agreements are ‘challenging’
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@sdetweil - Indeed. Knowledge you gain from your job that you use in your spare time is a tricky question legally. As usual, when lawyers get involved it gets complicated really quick.
Sigh.
You write sixteen apps and what do you get?
Another cycle of fixes and an update to Git.
St. Linus don’t you text me 'cuz I can’t go
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@bhepler yep… even knowledge developed on your own time and equip, unrelated to work business is ‘fun’ to work thru… (not!)
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Staying away from the implications of installing on your corporate computer…
Try Debian for Linux Subsystem for Windows if you use Windows 10, you can install it from the Windows Store.
EDIT:
To use the store app you have to enable the WSL subsystem first by following the guide.
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/install-win10
Afterward just install the “Debian GNU/Linux” app from the windows store.
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