Read the statement by Michael Teeuw here.
Change page with MMM-Pages
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Hello everybody,
I would need your advice to change pages of the MM (I use MMM-Pages).
I have always used automatic rotation or recipes with the GA module … but I would like to do without the GA.What methods do you know to change pages using notifications? Excluding GA …
Thank you all.
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@Egnos Which condition do you regard as a trigger? timer? button? face recognition?
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@MMRIZE swipe? hand gesture
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@MMRIZE he has timed change… wants something explicit … has voice via GA now… but wants interaction without GA
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@Egnos
We might have many user-input methods for the mirror, but you need to have them already. What do you have? physical button? touchscreen? command from a smartphone? IR sensor? face detection from a webcam? Geo-fence detection? IFTTT event? noise detection? voice command without GA? Alexa skill? by email(yes, even it possible)…
What do you want? then we can discuss about it. :) -
@MMRIZE cannot be Alexa Skill
sadly Amazon has implemented new certification processes that MM system cannot pass
until certified all skill access is blocked -
@sdetweil Sad to hear it.
But I think through IFTTT it might be possible (though not tested, but…)
I mean, not Alexa implemented mirror, but use Alexa Echo to command a mirror (via IFTTT and webhook endpoint) -
@MMRIZE ah, and MMM-AlexaControl can do that locally (and already supports pages)
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@MMRIZE said in Change page with MMM-Pages:
@Egnos
We might have many user-input methods for the mirror, but you need to have them already. What do you have? physical button? touchscreen? command from a smartphone? IR sensor? face detection from a webcam? Geo-fence detection? IFTTT event? noise detection? voice command without GA? Alexa skill? by email(yes, even it possible)…
What do you want? then we can discuss about it. :)Hi @MMRIZE and thanks for your reply.
I wanted to understand which methods were possible to change the page using the notification method (excluding GA that I already use …).I was interested in “MMM-GroveGesture” (Maybe combined with a PIR…) but I have seen that some have reliability problems. Have you ever tried it?
https://forum.magicmirror.builders/topic/6428/question-to-mmm-swipe-simon089-and-mmm-pages-and-mmm-page-indicator@MMRIZE said in Change page with MMM-Pages:
@sdetweil Sad to hear it.
But I think through IFTTT it might be possible (though not tested, but…)
I mean, not Alexa implemented mirror, but use Alexa Echo to command a mirror (via >IFTTT and webhook endpoint)This solution of using Alexa Echo might interest me: have you already done some tests?
Thanks very much for the valuable advice!
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@Egnos said in Change page with MMM-Pages:
This solution of using Alexa Echo might interest me: have you already done some tests?
MMM-AlexaControl already provides support for MMM-Pages, using the notifications configuration options
next and back, and you can add actions to go to a specific pages (hard coded number)
AlexaControl creates fake/virtual wemo plugs, which can be turned on or off…
they cannot receive any data … so you can say ‘Turn on page 2’ which sends notification to pages to go to page twobut you cannot define a single switch that can go to any page based on voice…
(but it sounds like that to the user)… -
@Egnos said in Change page with MMM-Pages:
I was interested in “MMM-GroveGesture” (Maybe combined with a PIR…) but I have seen that some have reliability problems. Have you ever tried it?
Yup, I made that. :)
@Egnos said in Change page with MMM-Pages:
That is a different H/W and different module with
MMM-GroveGesture. MMM-Swipe is using HC-SR04, Ultrasonic Sensor, it is different with PAJ7620 gesture sensor.@Egnos said in Change page with MMM-Pages:
This solution of using Alexa Echo might interest me: have you already done some tests?
Not with Echo, But with Google Home I had success,(+ IFTTT + Nginx + dataplicity.io + MMM-NotificationTrigger) It is definitely possible.
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@sdetweil said in Change page with MMM-Pages:
but you cannot define a single switch that can go to any page based on voice…
(but it sounds like that to the user)…I did not understand this last sentence …
@MMRIZE said in Change page with MMM-Pages:
That is a different H/W and different module with MMM-GroveGesture. MMM-Swipe is using HC-SR04, Ultrasonic Sensor, it is different with PAJ7620 gesture sensor.
Which one do you recommend between the two? Did you find “MMM-GroveGesture” reliable?
@MMRIZE said in Change page with MMM-Pages:
Not with Echo, But with Google Home I had success,(+ IFTTT + Nginx + dataplicity.io + MMM-NotificationTrigger) It is definitely possible.
It would be perfect (I am oriented to the purchase of a Nest Audio …) but I see the thing too “complicated” … :grinning_face_with_sweat:
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@Egnos said in Change page with MMM-Pages:
I did not understand this last sentence …
the way AlexaControl works , it creates a switch, on or off…
a switch doesn’t get any data from the voice command
on 12? makes no sense
so you cannot create a single generic go to page x, notification
and use voice to give xyou CAN create a notification for EACH page
page 1
page 2
page 3
page 4
page 5and the voice is ‘alexa, turn on page 1’
and the page 1 alexacontrol event fires the pages notification for goto page 1this.sendNotification("PAGE_CHANGED", 0); -
@MMRIZE said in Change page with MMM-Pages:
Yup, I made that.
Sorry @MMRIZE but I didn’t understand that the module “MMM-GroveGesture” was created by you and I apologize if I doubted its reliability.
I found the sensor you mentioned, in a nicer form to see, I am attaching the link:
https://shop.m5stack.com/products/unit-gesture-recognition-sensor-paj7620u2
Can you confirm that it is the same HW that you used?Furthermore, would it be possible to link the functions of the gesture sensor to a motion sensor (PIR)?
For instance:
IF the motion sensor does not detect movement THEN do not activate the gesture sensor (also because the monitor would be off …)
IF the motion sensor detects movement THEN also activate the gesture sensor (also because the monitor would be on …)@sdetweil said in Change page with MMM-Pages:
the way AlexaControl works , it creates a switch, on or off…
a switch doesn’t get any data from the voice command
on 12? makes no sense
so you cannot create a single generic go to page x, notification
and use voice to give x
you CAN create a notification for EACH page
page 1
page 2
page 3
page 4
page 5
and the voice is ‘alexa, turn on page 1’
and the page 1 alexacontrol event fires the pages notification for goto page 1thanks @sdetweil now i understand. Thank you so much!
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@Egnos said in Change page with MMM-Pages:
Sorry @MMRIZE but I didn’t understand that the module “MMM-GroveGesture” was created by you and I apologize if I doubted its reliability.
I found the sensor you mentioned, in a nicer form to see, I am attaching the link:
https://shop.m5stack.com/products/unit-gesture-recognition-sensor-paj7620u2
Can you confirm that it is the same HW that you used?Looks like so. (If the description is right). I think it is only housed with pretty cover. But I think its better without housing (Because you may want to dig this sensor to wooden mirror frame. In that case, without housing would be better to assembly)
Another possible issue might be HY2.0-4P Cable included. That connector would not fit with bare GPIO pins of RPI. You may need something like below cable (only one piece);
@Egnos said in Change page with MMM-Pages:
Furthermore, would it be possible to link the functions of the gesture sensor to a motion sensor (PIR)?
For instance:
IF the motion sensor does not detect movement THEN do not activate the gesture sensor (also because the monitor would be off …)
IF the motion sensor detects movement THEN also activate the gesture sensor (also because the monitor would be on …)MMM-GroveGestures module already has
onIdleandonDetectedfeatures, So these features could be used for your idle/wakeup behaviours. (But the sensor itself has not long distances like PIR, so to use PIR together would be better idea.) -
@MMRIZE said in Change page with MMM-Pages:
Looks like so. (If the description is right). I think it is only housed with pretty cover. But I think its better without housing (Because you may want to dig this sensor to wooden mirror frame. In that case, without housing would be better to assembly)
Another possible issue might be HY2.0-4P Cable included. That connector would not fit with bare GPIO pins of RPI. You may need something like below cable (only one piece);If instead you took the sensor without a cover how did you think of attaching it to the frame? Do you leave the sensor naked or cover it with a self made cover?
@MMRIZE said in Change page with MMM-Pages:
MMM-GroveGestures module already has onIdle and onDetected features, So these features could be used for your idle/wakeup behaviours.
Ok, I hope you will help me when I have to make it work!:winking_face:
@MMRIZE said in Change page with MMM-Pages:
(But the sensor itself has not long distances like PIR, so to use PIR together would be better idea.)
From your tests what is the minimum distance that the hand must have from the sensor?
Thank you very much!
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@Egnos said in Change page with MMM-Pages:
From your tests what is the minimum distance that the hand must have from the sensor?
the doc for the sensor he linked says
Effective recognition distance 5cm-15cm
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@sdetweil said in Change page with MMM-Pages:
Effective recognition distance 5cm-15cm
(without obstruction of case or cover)If so, it is very little!
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@Egnos
See how usage looks like.
https://youtu.be/BcpZvkcrfHU
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