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i need help w pi imager and ssh, headless, oops, user error

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  • K Online
    karsten13 @sdetweil
    last edited by Mar 30, 2025, 3:14 PM

    @sdetweil

    another interesting fact, if I open the settings in the imager to flash another
    the password fields (user and wifi) are filled with junk text, maybe encrypted… but the values I entered are not visible

    thats normal

    which version of pi imager are you using? Latest which is v1.9.0?

    And you are using the right user + passwd (I often forget to set the correct user)?

    The pi imager writes a file user-data into the root dir of the sd-card which has yaml content, you can check the content (e.g. user) and also try to override passwd, maybe it works unencrypted, otherwise you can try to encrypt with htpasswd.

    wifi has own file network-.con (yaml too).

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      sdetweil @karsten13
      last edited by Mar 30, 2025, 3:22 PM

      @karsten13 I get imager 1.8.5 on mac, ubuntu, and windows, clicking the link on the images page for the tool

      same userid/password I always use for sbc systems to test…
      same wifi and password too…

      there is junk in the files… nothing I can understand…

      I am not a system setup guy.
      mac cannot access the rootfs partition, only the bootfs
      can’t get the sd card attached to the ubuntu VM… gr…

      Sam

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        sdetweil @sdetweil
        last edited by sdetweil Mar 30, 2025, 3:42 PM Mar 30, 2025, 3:37 PM

        @karsten13 I can get to the partitions from my chromebook…

        there is no user-data, there is a script firstrun.sh which is linked to the cmdline.txt

        systemd.run=/boot/firstrun.sh systemd.run_success_action=reboot
        

        but it has not created the user I defined… only pi is in /home

        so my guess is the firstrun.sh didn’t
        and it never reboots

        on the sd card, firstrun.sh and cmdline.txt are the only two changed files,
        yesterday at noon, which is when the last flash finished

        Sam

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          karsten13 @sdetweil
          last edited by Mar 30, 2025, 3:41 PM

          @sdetweil

          files should be in same directory as config.txt and cmdline.txt. Maybe the OS deletes them after initial reading? So you may have to look for this files before you insert the sd-card into the pi …

          example of user-data:

          [mm@pi4-argon efi]$ cat user-data
          #cloud-config
          hostname: pi4-argon
          manage_etc_hosts: true
          packages:
          - avahi-daemon
          apt:
            conf: |
              Acquire {
                Check-Date "false";
              };
          
          users:
          - name: mm
            groups: users,adm,dialout,audio,netdev,video,plugdev,cdrom,games,input,gpio,spi,i2c,render,sudo
            shell: /bin/bash
            lock_passwd: false
            passwd: $5$wEw...
            ssh_authorized_keys:
              - ssh-rsa AAAA...
            sudo: ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD:ALL
          
          
          timezone: Europe/Berlin
          keyboard:
            model: pc105
            layout: "de"
          

          example of network-.con:

          [mm@pi4-argon efi]$ cat network-.con
          version: 2
          wifis:
            renderer: networkd
            wlan0:
              dhcp4: true
              optional: true
              access-points:
                "k13":
                  password: "cbd..."
          
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            sdetweil @karsten13
            last edited by sdetweil Mar 30, 2025, 3:54 PM Mar 30, 2025, 3:52 PM

            @karsten13 nope, right after flash, those files are not there.
            the firstrun and cmdline.txt have todays date, I am showing hidden files (if any)

            IMG_0894.jpeg

            Sam

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              sdetweil @sdetweil
              last edited by sdetweil Mar 30, 2025, 6:33 PM Mar 30, 2025, 4:11 PM

              well then…

              turns out the pi5 I picked to bring with me has the nvme hat on, and boots to the nvme drive, NOT the sd card…doah!!..

              after some thinking, I found the right user/pw combo…

              never mind…

              BUT that explains why the sd card wasn’t used!!

              Sam

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                karsten13 @sdetweil
                last edited by Mar 30, 2025, 4:16 PM

                @sdetweil

                and I learned more about pi imager, the stuff it writes seems to depend on the OS, with my examples above I used fedora, now looking at a raspian pi os lite I don’t see the files.

                There now is a userconf.txt with only user/password …

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                  sdetweil @karsten13
                  last edited by Mar 30, 2025, 4:22 PM

                  @karsten13 I don’t see that at all on bookworm full

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                    rkorell @sdetweil
                    last edited by rkorell Apr 1, 2025, 11:58 AM Apr 1, 2025, 11:54 AM

                    @sdetweil said

                    I am not a system setup guy.

                    Dear Sam,
                    you may aware of this - than please ignore it…

                    You’ve described that you have put a SD card in your NVME-HAT’ed Pi and your Pi has not booted from SD but from NVME…

                    You can steer this with the BOOT_ORDER entry in eeprom configuration.
                    This code is read right to left to determine the boot order and should (in your case) be: 0xf461:

                    1 = Check SD card
                    6 = Check PCIe NVME
                    4 = Check USB drive
                    f = Start again

                    You can check this:

                    sudo rpi-eeprom-config
                    

                    If boot order is not as desired you can edit this with

                    sudo -E rpi-eeprom-config --edit
                    
                    enter or modify to:
                    BOOT_ORDER=0xf461
                    
                    

                    (In my configuration this opens the nano editor in which ctrl-O writes the changes to disk and ctrl-X leaves the editor.
                    eeprom-config then modifies the system and a reboot is neccessary)

                    With this configuration you will lose a tiny bit of time for the SD-card check but it enables you to insert a SD card and boot from there despite the NVME is connected as well.

                    Regards,
                    Ralf

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                      sdetweil @rkorell
                      last edited by Apr 1, 2025, 12:01 PM

                      @rkorell thanks. i had clearly set the boot order wrong.

                      Sam

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