Help Translating Word Clock

[pjkoeleman]

@j.e.f.f
I think that is awesome, for a Dutch person.

[willfri]

@j.e.f.f said in Help Translating Word Clock:

Question: Since we’re using 12 hour time instead of 24, is it customary to specify what part of the day it’s in? For example, in the French translation, it would say “Il est cinq heures du matin,” or “It’s five o’clock in the morning.” Similarly you’d append “de l’après midi” for the afternoon, and “du soir” for in the evening.

I’m not sure if it’s needing. In German it would be

• Night: “Es ist zwei Uhr nachts”
• Morning: “Es ist sieben Uhr morgens”
• Afternoon: “Es ist drei Uhr nachmittags”
• Evening: “Es ist neun Uhr abends”

But for the other times without “Uhr” it sounds in my opinion wired: “Es ist viertel nach zwei nachts”
I don’t know how other German people see it.

[j.e.f.f]

@willfri thanks. I think I’ll leave it as is then.

[strawberry 3.141]

@j.e.f.f There is a shop about 30 minutes drive which sells a word clock, but I’m not sure if it was in german or english. Anyways if I’ll get there I will take a photo so we can see how they arranged the layout.

EDIT: I found a picture online of the shop, looks like they have swissgerman, english and german. I could try to create a swissgerman translation. But switzerland has so many dialects and there are no rules how you write words down as far as I know, because they have to write in german but they speak in swissgerman. I will give it a try.

EDIT 2: need to investigate why it’s not showing the characters äöü, because the font supports it. Some encoding stuff should be the issue.

EDIT 3: https://github.com/fewieden/MMM-MyWordClock I have to leave now. Will create the tall version and pr later.

[pjkoeleman]

@willfri @strawberry-3-141
Is the translation of 13:20 okee, I would say “Es ist zehn vor halb zwei”?

[j.e.f.f]

@strawberry-3.141 This is amazing! Thanks for this. Let me know when the tall version is available and I’ll merge it in

[willfri]

@pjkoeleman Yes, “Es ist zehn vor halb zwei” would be better as “Es ist zwanzig nach eins”

[pjkoeleman]

@willfri
Then we have to ask @j-e-f-f if he will changes this in the German language.

Disclamer : Ich bin nur hier, um mein Deutsch zu üben.

[A Former User]

I am ashamed to tell this, I’m living in Germany for years but cannot speak any Deutsche. :)

You can see this.
https://learn-german-easily.com/tell-time-in-german

[j.e.f.f]

@pjkoeleman Yep I’ll take care of this. Thanks for pointing this out!

[j.e.f.f]

@Sean From the link you sent, it appears that “Viertel” should always be capitalized, much like “Uhr.”

@willfri @strawberry-3-141 is that the case?

[A Former User]

@j.e.f.f said in Help Translating Word Clock:

@Sean From the link you sent, it appears that “Viertel” should always be capitalized, much like “Uhr.”

Viertel is a noun. viertel is an adjective. All nouns begin with capital in German.

Additionally,
Eins is a feminine-noun. It means ‘number 1’
eins is a numeral, but varied form. The root form is ein. eins is used as neutral-noun when used alone without any other subjective. So, eins is shorten from ein Uhr. One more funny thing, Uhr is feminine-noun, so eine Uhr means a clock not an hour

[j.e.f.f]

I just pushed an update to correct the German layout. Here’s an example:

[kruemel]

erm… sounds strange to me (Switzerland)
We say: “Es ist zwanzig nach zwölf”
or “es ist fünf vor halb eins”

or “es ist fünf nach eins”
or “es ist zwanzig vor eins”

but nobody here says “zehn vor halb eins”

… complicated this world languages, everybody talks different :D

[A Former User]

:D
In Standarddeutsch(Hochdeutsch),
08:20

• Es ist zwanzig nach acht.
• Es ist zehn vor halb neun.
  both are available. (Also, zwanzig vor = zehn nach halb)

How about this?
08:15

• Es ist Viertel nach acht.
• Es ist viertel acht.

And in some southern German, even this is available.

09:45

• Es ist drei viertel neun.

09:40

• Es ist fünf Minuten vor drei viertel neun.

That is why I dropped my German lesson. :)

[strawberry 3.141]

@Sean the first is correct zwanzig vor = zehn nach halb

the second is incorrect

08:15
Es ist Viertel nach acht.
Es ist viertel acht.

It is either Es ist viertel nach acht or Es ist viertel neun, but Es ist viertel acht would be 07:15.

The next is also correct

09:45
Es ist drei viertel neun.

And the last would be theoretically correct as well, but I really never heard someone saying this.

09:40
Es ist fünf Minuten vor drei viertel neun.

German is probably one of the hardest languages to learn for foreigners.

[A Former User]

@strawberry-3.141 ^^ I was confused.^^ anyway, whether i’m living in Germany for several years as foreigner, Deutsche is verry difficult to learn. The only phrase I can speak is “Bitte? Leider ist meine Deutsche nicht so gut, Kennen Sie Engilsch sprechen?” :P

@j-e-f-f Do you have any interest about Far-East-Asian version for your clock? For Korean, Japanese and Chinese I can help you for the schemes of word clock with proper characters. They are probably easier than Indian-European languages. And even shorter and less exception.
Maybe it’s not useful for most users, but it could be pretty beautiful.

[j.e.f.f]

@Sean that would be amazing! I don’t think the fonts I’m using support double-byte characters though. I’ll have to check. I might need to source other fonts for these.

[A Former User]

@j.e.f.f noto font from google could be possible in raspbian. With my experience, people should install additional fonts for CJK supports like noto.

[j.e.f.f]

@Sean no need. If it’s available in google fonts then I can include it with the module. That’s what I’m doing now.

I need two fonts. One for the I highlighted state, which should be a rather plain version, and one for the highlighted state which should be ornamental.