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    Slim, Frameless Bathroom Mirror with a 27" Display

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      reaper81
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      @schlachtkreuzer6

      “…how is the sound with the exciters?”

      Let me put it this way, the exciter sound better than the sound from the phone.
      But you should not promise too much. The bass is quite good but high frequencies, as for the voices go under.
      I can only speculate if stronger exciters in conjunction with a stronger amp would help here. The main reason for
      the use of the exciter was the ease of installation and the small depth. If the mirror was not as flat as possible
      I should have used real speakers with their own acoustic cabinet.

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        reaper81
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        @MyMirror

        “…Can you show us, how do you dismantled the foot…”
        Sorry but i have no pictures from the dismantling the foot. But is realy easy. All you have to do is remove the back of the palstik from the monitor, which is held with plastic noses. It is best to use a slightly wider spatula or car interior tool. Then you can already see the three screws with which the foot on the monitor screwed. In the end, only the monitor foot has to be screwed on to get the cable out of it.

        “…What about the temperature…”
        I do not know if the monitor temperature will be a problem in the future. If so, ventilation holes could still be drilled in the upper part of the frame.

        “…apply black foil on the back side…”
        No, the black film is there to reflect incident light just as the black monitor does. If I did not do that, I would have a darker reflection in the area of the monitor than in the areas without a monitor.

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          reaper81 @MyMirror
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          @MyMirror

          damm shit. Without the monitor foot I will probably not be able to complain the monitor.

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            schlachtkreuzer6 @reaper81
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            @reaper81
            Thanks! I found some nice speakers with 10W/20W and about 40mm depth so my mirror will be something about 50-60mm depth overall. And I was thinking about exciters as well. But I am afraid of a lot distortion in the mirror itself when you play music at higher levels and standing in front of it. What do you say about that? Is it hard to see or is it like in some cheap cars that you can’t read numberplates in the backmirror because the whole car is shaking and also the glass and mirrors…

            My speakers: https://www.neuhold-elektronik.at/catshop/product_info.php?cPath=242_253&products_id=6537

            I am using an amp HAT and four of those speakers. But I’m missing some deeper frequencies (110…20.000 Hz) you hear that there is a lot missing in playing music. So I thought I will get an exciter with low frequencies ~20-200Hz to get a fuller sound. There are basically TV speakers so they are quite good at higher frequencies.

            I really should post my project here ^^

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              MyMirror @reaper81
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              @reaper81
              You should ask the service …
              I think, that the will deliver the power adapter and you should give them the old one.

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                MyMirror @schlachtkreuzer6
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                @schlachtkreuzer6
                Yes, of course you should!

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                  reaper81
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                  @schlachtkreuzer6

                  there are no visible distortions on the mirrorglas with my exciters. I think if you want a really good audiosound, buy separate ceiling speakers.

                  …and yes, you should post yout project. We are all excited.

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                    schlachtkreuzer6 @reaper81
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                    @reaper81 nah… :( no space for ceiling speakers. I will try it with extra exciters 😊 I also thinking of an audio crossover :)

                    thanks for your thoughts and info again

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                      JamieH1986
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                      Looking brilliant 👍 how is the mirror now? Just curious as I have just got my mirror made, it has a aluminium Spray to make it 2-way.
                      I have asked the question to them regarding what glue to use to stick a frame down they have advised me not to use glue as the chemicals could bubble and look like it’s melting? I really want the frameless look but cautious

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                        reaper81
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                        @JamieH1986

                        Thanks a lot. I don’t know how the mirror is right now, because the mirror hangs in the bathroom of my brother. Maybe i don’t understand your questions. In the answer to Relic i have linked the glue i used. (soudal fix all high track). The glue is not direct on glas of the mirror. The glas is covered with a black window foil. So it is impossible to see bubbles in the mirror. Before i used the glue i made several gluetests with some smalle peaces of wood, foil and mirrorglas. The glue don’t melt the foil and the connect between wood, foil and glas is very strong.

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                          bucci @reaper81
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                          @reaper81 I’ve built speakers with exciters before, and the only way I found to really get nice treble was to use a tweeter in addition to the exciter. You need a crossover so the tweeters don’t blow if you crank the volume. I would say if you got tweeters you could point them up and hide them behind the mirror? This mirror build is very nicely done!

                          Here is a link to my exciter speaker build for the curious. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6hGmyNImaI

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                            Mykle1 Project Sponsor Module Developer @bucci
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                            @bucci said in Slim, Frameless Bathroom Mirror with a 27" Display:

                            Here is a link to my exciter speaker build for the curious.

                            I was curious. Now, I’m amazed. I didn’t even know something like this was possible. Good stuff! :-)

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                              schlachtkreuzer6 @bucci
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                              @bucci
                              Cool!

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                                EduardZ
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                                Hi @reaper81,

                                great job. Your mirror looks very nice. Could you explain how do you attach the display behind the mirror?

                                I read something about a black window foil some posts before. Do you affix the whole back side of the mirror with the black window foil and attach the display with the glue you mentioned? Do you have a link for the window foil? Do you cut out the area for the display? Is the frame of the display visible if you are standing in front of the mirror?

                                I hope you could give me some hints. I do not find any instructions how to preferably attach the display behind the mirror.

                                Many thanks an best regards
                                Eduard

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                                  reaper81 @EduardZ
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                                  @EduardZ

                                  The display lies flush between the middle and upper cedar wood and is held only by angles screwed behind it, as can be seen in the picture below.

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                                  It is important that the foil is only removed in the area on the mirror, where later also the display should be visible. It is not bad either if a little too much foil was removed, it happened to me too. Then you just stick something on the glass or even better directly on the annoying place on the display, such as on the silver strip on my display.

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                                    reaper81 @bucci
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                                    @bucci

                                    You really should not have shown me the link. Now I am dissatisfied with my solution. But your are rigth, small tweeters at the non visible top of the frame in connection with the exciters would produce a better sound. Well maybe the next mirror …

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                                      schlachtkreuzer6 @reaper81
                                      last edited by

                                      @reaper81
                                      Don’t be sad. Every time when you see an other project you will think damn that’s an great idea ^^

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                                        PaulB
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                                        @reaper81 At least once a month I come across your awesome mirror. And it still wow’s me. I am looking forward to install a likewise solution as you did. It just looks so incredible cool.

                                        Many Greetings from Hamburg :)

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                                          Cr4z33 @reaper81
                                          last edited by Cr4z33

                                          @reaper81 said in Slim, Frameless Bathroom Mirror with a 27" Display:

                                          For indirect lighting special 45 ° aluminum profiles were used, into which the LED strips were laid. The lighting can be dimmed and set the color temperature by radio.

                                          I am interested into your LED solution, but I couldn’t understand what you meant there. :thinking_face:

                                          Are you saying that the LEDs/LED colours are managed by a typical IR remote or?

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                                            bachoo786
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                                            hi @reaper81

                                            very nice mirror well done.

                                            quick question are you having any issues with wifi drop outs? I have my smart mirror infront of the tiles in my bathroom and have issues with wifi dropping out and I think it could be the tiles causing this wifi drop out.

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