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  • M Offline
    Mitchfarino Module Developer @PtrBld
    last edited by May 17, 2016, 11:30 AM

    @PtrBld Would love to see something similar, but using NFC instead of a button?

    e.g. I use NFC on my phone and a sticker on the mirror, to simulate the button press and send the command to the module(s)

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    • P Offline
      PtrBld Module Developer
      last edited by May 17, 2016, 3:26 PM

      I think this should work as long as your phone is connected to the same network as the mirror. And we need to create a simple Android / IOS Service which sends the commands to the mirror. However I do not see any possibility to directly connect the NFC chip to the mirror without using an app service…

      So this is quite a lot of work to do. If I find time I will take a look at it, but don´t expect this too soon. If you want to try it you can surely ask me if you need any help!

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        jtyle6
        last edited by May 17, 2016, 5:09 PM

        Or you can use one of these boards.

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        • D Offline
          dicker182
          last edited by dicker182 Jul 24, 2016, 6:23 PM Jul 24, 2016, 6:22 PM

          Hello,

          Im running MMM-Button Modul und GPIO PIN 9. Everything is working fine. But sometimes my Tagesschauvideo starts without my hand. I did nothing and “pm2 logs mm” sad to me: button pressed. Any idea why this happens?

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            dicker182
            last edited by Jul 25, 2016, 3:33 PM

            Here a picture of my pm2 logs over the night:

            0_1469460451271_Bildschirmfoto 2016-07-25 um 17.27.13.png

            I never pressed the button :(

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            • K Offline
              KirAsh4 Moderator
              last edited by Jul 26, 2016, 4:35 AM

              What’s listening for the button? How is it configured? How is the GPIO pin configured?

              Two possibilities:
              a) the button is faulty
              b) the button is left FLOATING

              A bit of lesson here:
              In order for a button to get registered, the controller needs to be able to detect a voltage differential. Whether that’s 0V to 3.3V, or -5V to 0V. This means that the button needs to be at a known level compared to what the controller is set to register a trigger. If the controller is meant to detect a HIGH, or 1, then the button must be referenced to ground, or 0V. If the controller is set to detect a LOW, or 0, then the button must be referenced to the pin’s high voltage, 3.3V or 5V. This is called pulling the button UP or DOWN. When the button is pushed, it will then register the voltage difference that the controller will recognize.

              A button that has no reference to either a LOW or HIGH is called a FLOATING button. This is bad! A floating button will randomly trigger and the controller will “see” random triggers from it.

              So, how is the button set up, how is the GPIO set up, what’s the code that’s attempting to read the button?

              A Life? Cool! Where can I download one of those from?

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                CGabo @dicker182
                last edited by Jul 26, 2016, 9:26 AM

                @dicker182

                And to complement @KirAsh4 comment: probably the cause is some voltage / EMI feedback, likely due to the wires and switches.

                From what I see, the Pi does not have protective diodes on the inputs like the AVR chips (and Arduino) do. As a result, feedback to the Pi can probably cause the behaviour which you experienced. Try to switch on/off some lights and electrical devices and see the result.

                To correct this condition, use a combination of current limiting, filtering and shielding.

                You could use for current limiting, a 1K resistor in line with the switch, installed on a PCB inches from the Pi. Also use a low-pass filter made up of another pull-up / pull-down resistor and a capacitor alternatively to the build in PULL-UP and PULL-DOWN resistors of the PI.

                Here are some additional links:

                https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=53548

                http://www.digikey.com/en/articles/techzone/2012/apr/protecting-inputs-in-digital-electronics

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                  dicker182
                  last edited by Jul 26, 2016, 8:13 PM

                  Both, thank you for your answer. I will try to give you more informations. The following button from Ebay are used:

                  http://www.ebay.de/itm/272129888717?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&var=570940259633&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

                  Art-Nr. 041

                  At first, I tryed the configuration from PtrBld´s howto:

                  0_1469563372766_upload-9e2a744a-191c-4bc0-a573-f60bb97298ea

                  0_1469563330027_upload-82d3e24f-3dc3-445c-b383-2bfbd97945fd
                  https://developer.microsoft.com/de-de/windows/iot/win10/samples/PushButton.htm


                  After the false positiv pressed buttons, I tryed the actually config:

                  0_1469563460478_upload-01973e92-35f2-4c6e-a8f0-54d28cd740ee https://dracarysdiy.files.wordpress.com/2016/03/button.jpg?w=474

                  But the problem is always the same.

                  @CGabo, I will have a look to your links tomorrow. But I am not an electrican, so I hope to understand.

                  Thank you in advance!

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                  • K Offline
                    KirAsh4 Moderator
                    last edited by Jul 26, 2016, 8:51 PM

                    Yeah, that’s a floating button. You need a pull-down on it, a known state, so the rpi can detect a change. You can either do that in software with RPi.GPIO and configuring it as such:

                    GPIO.setup(PIN, GPIO.IN, pull_up_down=GPIO.PUD_DOWN)
                    

                    Or through hardware:
                    https://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/projects/raspberrypi/tutorials/robot/buttons_and_switches/

                    A Life? Cool! Where can I download one of those from?

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                    • D Offline
                      dicker182
                      last edited by dicker182 Jul 27, 2016, 12:09 PM Jul 27, 2016, 11:58 AM

                      Okay, now I have a script button.py which starts with rc.local after boot.

                      import RPi.GPIO as GPIO
                      import time
                      
                      GPIO.setmode(GPIO.BCM)
                      GPIO.setup(9, GPIO.IN, pull_up_down=GPIO.PUD_DOWN)
                      GPIO.cleanup()           # clean up GPIO on normal exit
                      

                      But it´s also not working. Did I miss something?

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