@tomster

Here is a video, demonstrating the three types of lightning I have in my bathroom: backlight from the mirror frame, ambient lights and main ceiling lights https://youtu.be/wqJNxCwOmck

To be honest I almost never use the main ceiling lights - only when I am thoroughly cleaning the bathroom, most of the time I use only the backlight from the mirror frame or the ambient lightning as that is enough for me.

Hi @tomster. I am not really aware of the coating used. I could ask, but I am not sure if they will tell me. Is there a way I could test it myself? Maybe with a multimeter, touching the back of the mirror seeing if it conducts electricity?

I don’t have a touch foil with me to test it out as I am a fan of no-fingerprint surfaces and the mirrors are definitely not such :D

I rely on voice control as it is linked to my Home Assistant instance and I can command my whole house with voice via MMM-GoogleAssistant.

Hello @tomsterand sorry for the late reply, I was out of town for a few days. I am planning to shoot few 4K/60 videos with my GoPro in different lightning conditions today, so that everyone can see the mirror in action.

@tomster in my case I hope that burn-in won’t be an issue, since the display is ON for only few minutes, when I am in front of the mirror, then it goes into sleep, but as you said it is not yet mass produced in the size that I need for my project and the niche products cost a lot.

Just FYI, this is the mirror that I am using now and it is a bit better that the previous one that I used and a lot cheaper: https://forum.magicmirror.builders/topic/15553/new-2-way-mirror-supplier-lower-prices-and-lead-times?_=1632237048367

In natural light you can’t tell that this is not a regular mirror and in dim conditions it is perfectly usable as a mirror, for example I shave in front of it even with only my ambient lights on. When I turn on all lights it looks the same as regular mirror it terms of reflection.

Hi all!

Let me introduce myself. My name is Denis and I’ve been a MagicMirror enthusiast like most of you since 2018.
Since then, I’ve been searching for the perfect mirror for my project. I’ve tried everything:

• two glasses with reflective foil between them - too heavy
• spy mirror - too dark
• a mirror that is offered here on the forum from a known member was my last try and it somehow met my expectations, except for the price

I feel that the price is quite steep for the enthusiasts and it is slowing down the adoption of this cool tech.

Since the mirror that I last used was broken during transit I used it as a proof of concept for few months and started looking for a cheaper alternative and I finally found it.

The properties of the mirror are:

• 4 mm thickness
• 60/40 reflectiveness/light pass-thru which in my opinion works perfectly if the mirror is positioned in a place with natural light, however, my mirror is in the bathroom with no natural light. I found it usable in dim light conditions and perfectly usable in well-lit artificial light conditions. I will post two 4K/60fps videos later.
• It is the same weight as the other well-recognized mirror offered here on the forum and it is perfect for frameless designs (as mine)

The price is 449 euro/sq. m. and it includes: (last price update 24.04.2023)

• 4 mm thick 2-way mirror
• Polished edges (no additional cost for polishing the edges)
• Laser cut foil pre-applied as per your design (no more additional cardboard or wood board to worry about when building your mirror)
• The mirror can be glued to a frame with any glue/silicon due to the pre-applied foil for achieving a borderless design

Shipping:
The shipping will be calculated on case per case basis so that you can get the best price. The other mirrors offered here on the forum have a flat shipping rate which is unfair as a mirror with size 30x30 has the same shipping costs as mirror 80x80 for example. I want to avoid that. All shipping costs will be fair and individual.

Another point:
The lead time is two weeks and there is no minimum order.

Here is a topic for my borderless setup: https://forum.magicmirror.builders/topic/14048/borderless-bathroom-mirror?_=1632049363086 (please note that the mirror there is another one that is offered here on the forum, the one I am offering looks better in my opinion)

I will post videos of the mirror in action in poor lighting conditions (my bathroom with no natural light) later.

I am open to any questions and another perk for the first three orders is that I will cover 50% of the shipping costs. UPDATE 08-12-2021: I have already shipped 3 orders; therefore the perk is no longer valid, however, the shipping cost is very reasonable IMHO.

In order to keep the price low for you, I would also accept payment through Revolut or through SEPA wire transfer which should have zero cost to you in most EU states.

NOTE 1: There might be +/- 1 mm tolerance in the mirror size
NOTE 2: When sending the foil drawing, please point out from which side you are viewing the drawing - in front of the mirror or looking at it from the back (e.g. mirrored or not). That is very important especially for assymethrical shapes.
NOTE 3 (update 05.07.2023): The shipping company that I used to ship the mirrors got fully acquired by DPD and they changed their international shipping policy, now they won’t accept packages longer than 175 cm, therefore, the mirrors that I can ship cannot be over 165 cm due to the padding. I sent a 170 cm long mirror recently, however, I had to compromise the side padding, fortunately it arrived at the destination in one piece but it was a compromise that I don’t want to make anymore. I could use other companies, but their prices are x2 higher and I want to keep the cost to a minimum so more people can build their projects.

Update 24.04.2023:
I am updating the price since I haven’t done so in two years and the prices have soared, unfortunately. The new price is 449 euro/sq. m.

Update 13.07.2023: I have decided that all money that I make from these mirrors (not just the profit - ALL MONEY) will go to different donations. So far, I have donated to three different campaigns for children with cancer.

@internetpolice you can use any foil, I used the cheapest PVC foil.
A piece of advice - I thought that white foil would add additional reflection to the mirror and make it brighter, but it didn’t and I swapped it with black foil - it is much better.

The glue that I used is this one:

However, since you will be gluing it to the PVC foil and not to the mirror directly, you could use any silicone.

Since as I mentioned in the start of my thread the mirror, I received from Chris was damaged during transit, I bought a new one from a company in Bulgaria which is much better and cheaper (which I hope to soon offer here on the forum) and when I was removing the old mirror from the frame … man, it was strong … I broke the mirror in multiple places as I was cutting the silicone, so you should not worry about the mirror not sticking, it is not that heavy as the mirror is thin.

@cowboysdude https://letyshops.com/r/aliexpress-ww-97c9f222e4cc I got it from this seller on AliExpress as I found it to be the cheapest

I have a similar setup. Here is a link to my thread: https://forum.magicmirror.builders/topic/14048/borderless-bathroom-mirror?_=1630345450317

I had this set-up for quite a while now, but I have it configured a bit different. I have a ZigBee human body detector in the bathroom integrated with HA and based on the input I remotely control MM via HA automations.

Sure.

Currently I am using:

• MMM-MyCalendar
• MMM-DarkSkyForecast
• MMM-homeassistant-sensors
• MMM-Spotify
• MMM-GoogleAssistant
• MMM-GoogleBirthdaysProvider
• MMM-MyCommute

First things first. It all started 2 years ago when I started building a smart home system based on Home Assistant. The next logical step for me was a smart bathroom mirror that would display my calendar, commute to work information, weather info and sensor info from my smart home.

I had all the needed hardware - 24"LCD, Raspberry Pi 3b+ and etc.

I wanted a frameless mirror as it looked more slick, modern and professional.

I decided to go with the mirror that Goldjunge_Chriz offered as it had a lot of positive reviews on the forum albeit being more expensive.

The setup is the following:

• 80x73 cm two-way mirror (I was the unlucky winner who got a broken mirror by the courier, but that’s another story. I managed to glue it just for the sake of testing. I found a mirror company here in Bulgaria that offers a better and cheaper alternative but I will share more details on that later)
• 24" LCD monitor
• WRGB LED strip behind the mirror, controlled by H801 Wi-Fi controller integrated with Home Assistant
• PS3 eye camera behind the mirror which is responsible for face recognition and voice commands
• External motion sensor turns on the mirror and switches it off after there is no motion detected (Home Assistant automation)
• The WRGB LED is controlled by Home Assistant

The frame:

• Built out of 50x50 mm Г-shaped aluminum profiles, welded together
• On the back of the mirror there is a non-transparent foil cut to the dimensions of the monitor
• The frame is glued to the mirror through the foil

Some pictures of the back of the mirror before it is installed:

Videos of the mirror in action:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eljzwpAeAdM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNTWafM9NF4

Considerations:

• The mirror is too dark … it is not suitable for rooms with no natural light. I will be testing another mirror at a later stage and will come back with the results, but this one is definitely not going to serve as a normal mirror in your bathroom.
• You have to stick something to the back of the mirror (e.g. non-transperant foil, wood panel or something else, otherwise you will be able to see through)
• If you can afford it (I can’t at the moment) go for an OLED monitor/TV - the LCD backlight is seen through the mirror and while it is not that bad I am perfectionist and it bothers me :D

@Bugsounet thanks for the information. When should we expect your fork of the project to be ready?

Well, now as @Bugsounet closed his modules for MM and @Sean deleted the AssistantMk2 repo the MM users are left without Voice control. Great!

@fribse said in Two way community order for mirror glass for all european countries - Open until at least 10 people have entered the list:

@Ivanov_d Mine arrived in one piece, though I never got a notification from the danish postal system, so I had to find it through customer service, that couldn’t give me a danish tracking number, but fortunately the guy at the post office was a bright kid, that could find it from the description with ‘fragile’ and ‘glass’ written all over it.

Lucky you. It seems like somebody stepped on the package and broke it.

Has anyone received their mirror? Mine arrived today but it is broken :(

Confirmed

#	username	width (m)	height (m)	real area (m2)	area to pay for (min. 0,4 m²)	location of delivery	additional comments (like polished edges)
1	Ivanov_d	0,8	0,73	0,58	0,58	Bulgaria	polished edges
2	fribse	0,7	0,6	0,42	0,42	Denmark	polished edges
3	lavolp3	0,666	0,666	0,44	0,44	Germany (NRW)
4	super99iper	0,715	1,24	0,89	0,89	Italy	polished edges
5	Photon2000	0,79	0,79	0,62	0,62	Germany, Berlin	polished edges
6	lolo	0,84	0,7	0,59	0,59	Croatia	polished edges
7	gdr2404	1,1	0,45	0,5	0,5	UK	polished edges
8	hozt	0,48	0,70	0,294	0,4	PT	polished edges
9	gianni.b	0,911	0,522	0,4755	0,4755	Italy	polished edges
10	djdocta	57,8	95,3	0,55	0,55	Germany	polished edges
11	uros76	0,7	0,4	0,28	0,4	Poland	polished edges

I think that we are enough already :)

@Goldjunge_Chriz can we have next steps, please?

#	username	width (m)	height (m)	real area (m2)	area to pay for (min. 0,4 m²)	location of delivery	additional comments (like polished edges)
1	Ivanov_d	0,8	0,73	0,58	0,58	Bulgaria	polished edges
2	fribse	0,7	0,6	0,42	0,42	Denmark	polished edges
3	lavolp3	0,666	0,666	0,44	0,44	Germany (NRW)
4	super99iper	0,715	1,24	0,89	0,89	Italy	polished edges
5	Photon2000	0,79	0,79	0,62	0,62	Germany, Berlin	polished edges
6	lolo	0,84	0,7	0,59	0,59	Croatia	polished edges
7	gdr2404	1,1	0,45	0,5	0,5	UK	polished edges
8	hozt	0,48	0,70	0,294	0,4	PT	polished edges
9	gianni.b	0,911	0,522	0,4755	0,4755	Italy	polished edges
10

Yeayyy, we need one more order :) C’mon guys!