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    stronger Raspberry Pi 3 Alternatives

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    • J Offline
      j.e.f.f Project Sponsor Module Developer @cowboysdude
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      @cowboysdude How is the miniATX for heat generation and dissipation when your mirror is hanging up against the wall? Do you need to use a fan on the cpu or gpu? My Pi3 already runs in the high 60’s Celcius without a fan (I’m not using face recognition, or this would likely be much worse)… I’d be concerned that the extra power and limited airflow would generate a significant amount of heat, and adding a fan would result in an annoying whirring sound – ideally I’d want the mirror to operate silently.

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        cowboysdude Module Developer @j.e.f.f
        last edited by cowboysdude

        @j.e.f.f right now I don’t have it all together so I can’t really answer that question. BUT it has crossed my mind… so I’m going to run a fan off of the motherboard and run it to the top of the ‘frame’ to get rid of the heat. If you buy a high quality fan the noise shouldn’t be a problem…

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          j.e.f.f Project Sponsor Module Developer @cowboysdude
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          @cowboysdude When you have it all put together, let us know what the noise from the fan is like.

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            cowboysdude Module Developer @j.e.f.f
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            @j.e.f.f Will do!

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            • Mykle1M Offline
              Mykle1 Project Sponsor Module Developer @j.e.f.f
              last edited by Mykle1

              @j.e.f.f said in stronger Raspberry Pi 3 Alternatives:

              let us know what the noise from the fan is like.

              My experience with the fan.

              My thoughts about using a fan:

              In my case, if there is any form of ambient sound in the room, I don’t hear the fan at all. If the window is open, if the tv or radio is on, anything at all then I can’t hear the fan. I listened for it when I first installed it.

              When do I hear it? At night, when the windows are closed, tv is off, and the house is absolutely silent. The mirror is not in my bedroom, although that wouldn’t matter. My wife’s snoring can mask the sound of a 747 on liftoff.

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              • cowboysdudeC Offline
                cowboysdude Module Developer
                last edited by cowboysdude

                Well here’s step 1 for my big mirror… I wanted something stronger then a PI so here is my mini-itx in its new home… Cooling is NOT an issue… it’s about 13" square and about 3 inches tall :) Easy to put out of the way … NOW to build a frame for the ‘display’… Coming soon!

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                HERE is how it all stays cool…this fan is totally SILENT… LOVE IT!
                https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835220067

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                • Mykle1M Offline
                  Mykle1 Project Sponsor Module Developer @cowboysdude
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                  @cowboysdude said in stronger Raspberry Pi 3 Alternatives:

                  Easy to put out of the way … NOW to build a frame for the ‘display’

                  Great idea! Now hurry the hell up with the frame! :^)

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                    cowboysdude Module Developer @Mykle1
                    last edited by

                    @Mykle1 I’m working on it COMING SOON

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                      j.e.f.f Project Sponsor Module Developer @cowboysdude
                      last edited by

                      @cowboysdude is the idea that the mini atx sits beside the mirror as opposed to being built? Say on a console table with just an HDMI cable running to the screen?

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                        cowboysdude Module Developer @j.e.f.f
                        last edited by

                        @j.e.f.f No it will be underneath as I’m building into a type of desk/cabinet

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                          Snille Module Developer
                          last edited by Snille

                          All, I have got the Libre Computer now. Trying my best to get the mirror up. Ran in to a small hitch. There is no chromedriver for arm64 yet. They are working on it and there is a PR but it has not yet gone completely through it seems. I’ll see if I can figure it out some how anyway. :)

                          I’ll come back to this thread as soon as I gotten MM up and running.

                          If you cant find it, make it and share it!
                          Modules: MMM-homeassistant-sensors, MMM-Modulebar, MMM-Profilepicture, MMM-Videoplayer

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                            stacywebb @Snille
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                            @Snille
                            I’ve gotten it working a Pine Rock64 (arm64 also).

                            Downloaded electron-v1.7.5-linux-arm64.zip listed under electron’s PR

                            One thing to note: when downloading from the link, the site’s cert has expired.

                            From terminal:

                            // Since the cert for the site has expired (but is safe)
                            
                            wget --no-check-certificate https://www.hamidx9.ir/dl/electron_arm64/electron-v1.7.5-linux-arm64.zip
                            
                            // Important make sure to unzip to your electron path
                            
                            unzip electron-v1.7.5-linux-arm64.zip ~/MagicMirror/node_modules/electron/dist/
                            
                            

                            Once done just started as usual (npm start).

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                              Snille Module Developer @stacywebb
                              last edited by

                              @stacywebb Thank you! I’ll try it out as soon as I got some time. Have you compared with a Pi3?

                              If you cant find it, make it and share it!
                              Modules: MMM-homeassistant-sensors, MMM-Modulebar, MMM-Profilepicture, MMM-Videoplayer

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                                stacywebb @Snille
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                                @Snille

                                I haven’t done any benchmarking as of yet. Once I do, I’ll post the results.

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                                  Mykle1 Project Sponsor Module Developer @stacywebb
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                                  @stacywebb said in stronger Raspberry Pi 3 Alternatives:

                                  I haven’t done any benchmarking as of yet. Once I do, I’ll post the results.

                                  If you could do some comparisons using nmon between a Pi3 and the Rock64 I’d really be interested in the results, as they pertain to this topic.
                                  https://forum.magicmirror.builders/topic/4684/electron-cpu-usage

                                  Otherwise, I’m looking forward to your results on the Rock64.

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                                    cruunnerr
                                    last edited by cruunnerr

                                    @Mykle1

                                    https://youtu.be/FjbzKfeHB_8?t=8m10s

                                    As i understood, u were able to use GPIO commands the same way u do on a raspberry. Seems to be a nice option

                                    Benchmarks at 08:10

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                                      Mykle1 Project Sponsor Module Developer @cruunnerr
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                                      @cruunnerr

                                      No WiFi? NFW!

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                                        ninjabreadman @Mykle1
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                                        @Mykle1 The b/g/n adapter is a further $7, and will also give you an antenna for better connectivity. The more robust (and likely excessive) b/g/n/ac dual-antenna is $22.

                                        Has anyone tried running MM on an Intel Compute Stick? I’m not normally a fan, but it seems it would suit the form factor and be easily placed behind a mirror, and has more fulsome specs to accommodate advanced modules, media streaming, etc.

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                                          Mykle1 Project Sponsor Module Developer @ninjabreadman
                                          last edited by

                                          @ninjabreadman

                                          No, but I’ve used, and am using, old laptop boards (and one netbook) with ubuntu. They can be gotten on the cheap and come with everything you need. :-)

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                                          • cruunnerrC Offline
                                            cruunnerr
                                            last edited by

                                            Well, i need to say that especially for me, the ability to use GPIOs is important. Unfortunately the power of the raspi’s & co is not as good as x86 systems.

                                            Does anyone know if it would be possible to use MagicMirror on a x86 system and uses external GPIOs? I installed an MM instance on a virtual machine running Linux. When i add a module which uses GPIOs i get errors. Is there a possibility (maybe with server-client)

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