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Magic Mirror on Windows 8.1 tablet?

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    roxx
    last edited by roxx Jan 16, 2019, 2:43 PM Jan 16, 2019, 2:04 PM

    Hi friends, i am getting a windows tablet for small price, its its Dell Venue 8 Pro. Should i buy it?🤔 It is just like new & unused but now the product is old in the market. Tablet details are here https://www.91mobiles.com/dell-venue-8-pro-price-in-india?ty=specs

    I have two doubts:

    1. it has 8" touchscreen… will it sense the touches on the screen after i build MM using this tablet? The mirrored acrylic sheet isnt available in my area… i will need to buy online… if possible please provide me amazon link to buy one.

    2. i will be installing MM as per this walkthrough… https://forum.magicmirror.builders/topic/4089/complete-walkthrough-install-magicmirror-on-a-pc-windows-7-10 … i hope this goes well…

    Thanks friends…

    Only a biker knows why dogs stick their head outside the window of a moving vehicle!!

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      bhepler Module Developer @roxx
      last edited by Jan 17, 2019, 2:43 PM

      @roxx - This probably will not work. The touchscreen will be unlikely to register any touches through the mirror surface.

      You can still use it as a source for a Magic Mirror, but you will be losing the touch interface unless you rig up an additional system. That said, most mirrors do not have touch capability and they’re still a lot of fun.

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        justjim1220 Module Developer @roxx
        last edited by Jan 17, 2019, 6:32 PM

        @roxx

        I tried to install MM2 on an older Windows Surface which was also Windows 8.1. But the OS would not let me install it as per the @ Mykle1’s walkthrough.

        If by some chance you do figure it out, I would be very interested in how you did it.

        "Life's Too Short To Dance With Ugly People"
        Jim Hallock - 1995

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          roxx @justjim1220
          last edited by roxx Jan 20, 2019, 7:59 PM Jan 20, 2019, 7:44 PM

          I got the tablet for 2days to verify MM works… And it does… but i am still stuck with config and modules…

          @bhepler said in Magic Mirror on Windows 8.1 tablet?:

          @roxx - This probably will not work. The touchscreen will be unlikely to register any touches through the mirror surface.

          You can still use it as a source for a Magic Mirror, but you will be losing the touch interface unless you rig up an additional system. That said, most mirrors do not have touch capability and they’re still a lot of fun.

          Hi bhepler… what do you mean by rig an additional system, i didn’t understand what you mean… I really want my MM to be touchscreen…

          Check this pic
          https://imgur.com/a/FBJuD8z

          my tablet has a thin layer of glass on the screen, about 1mm thick… here in india mostly everyone gets this tempered glass for their mobiles & tablets, it keeps the display/screen safe, an additional protection if the device falls… the touch does work still after the layer of this glass, i guess could i use 2mm 2way acrylic or glass or film?? This tempered glass is easy to stick and remove… . what do you think??

          @justjim1220 said in Magic Mirror on Windows 8.1 tablet?:

          @roxx

          I tried to install MM2 on an older Windows Surface which was also Windows 8.1. But the OS would not let me install it as per the @ Mykle1’s walkthrough.

          If by some chance you do figure it out, I would be very interested in how you did it.

          @justjim1220 … yep, i installed MM on my tablet as per the @ Mykle1s walkthrough.

          While i typed npm install in terminal, i tried installing npm install, but it gave an error… without doing anything further, i searched the net and then installed node & npm together from https://www.npmjs.com/get-npm
          Then MagicMirror worked… also check the version of node and npm as it says on that webpage…

          Here are few images
          http://imgur.com/a/SdaIhfj

          now i am working with config file and modules… another problem i came across is that fonts and everything looks big on my 8 inch tablet… clock weather and news, it all touches eachother… i need to make it smaller… theres no space between the modules… it happened before, reinstalled windows & everything and its fine but i guess adding modules will again create this problem…

          Yet another problem is the screen goes off after few minutes and comes up with windows user screen… need to disable it somehow…

          Moreover, once MM is started by npm start, i cant access anything, i have to bring up the charms bar, search for task manager and kill electron app…

          Try it, hope you could too install MM on your windows… And ya, the screen rotates as i rotate the tablet… i mean MM rotates, the orientation… I don’t need to add extra lines in config file for portrait or landscape as i read somewhere on the forum…

          Thanks…

          Only a biker knows why dogs stick their head outside the window of a moving vehicle!!

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            Mykle1 Project Sponsor Module Developer @roxx
            last edited by Mykle1 Jan 20, 2019, 9:53 PM Jan 20, 2019, 9:51 PM

            @roxx said in Magic Mirror on Windows 8.1 tablet?:

            @justjim1220 But the OS would not let me install it as per the @ Mykle1’s walkthrough.

            @justjim1220 … yep, i installed MM on my tablet as per the @ Mykle1s walkthrough.

            Booyah! :thumbsup:

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              bhepler Module Developer @roxx
              last edited by Jan 21, 2019, 2:27 AM

              @roxx said in Magic Mirror on Windows 8.1 tablet?:

              my tablet has a thin layer of glass on the screen, about 1mm thick… here in india mostly everyone gets this tempered glass for their mobiles & tablets, it keeps the display/screen safe, an additional protection if the device falls… the touch does work still after the layer of this glass, i guess could i use 2mm 2way acrylic or glass or film?? This tempered glass is easy to stick and remove… . what do you think??

              Well, if you have experience with the capacitance working through the extra layer of glass then I’m certainly not going to insist otherwise. Worst case scenario, you’ll have a magic mirror without touch capability. Which is still pretty awesome.

              There are touch films you can put on top of glass to give you touch capability. You might have to go this route. But you might not. It’s worth trying the mirror with your tablet finding out. Let us know how it goes.

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                cowboysdude Module Developer
                last edited by cowboysdude Jan 21, 2019, 4:05 AM Jan 21, 2019, 3:56 AM

                Well what I’ve found to be true 100% of the time is just following basic instructions which @Mykle1 has clearly laid out… listening to people that have no clue…yeahhhhh not such a great idea.

                Being new what I would do is take some time and look around…you’ll see the answers people give and you’ll figure out those who know and those who are guessing :) It’s what I did and in the end I just went to the people that actually knew so I didn’t have to spend needless hours trying things that didn’t work :)

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                  cowboysdude Module Developer @roxx
                  last edited by Jan 21, 2019, 3:59 AM

                  @roxx Great job!! The problem is that really no one is doing the exact same thing and sometimes you have to tinker to get it. Nice job going out on the net to find your answer … installing it as a package clears it up most of the time :)

                  When I first started out in MM I had a HUGE problem installing it sooooooo I would get as far as I could and then take my error out on the internet and find out how to fix it…well yeah it took me an entire day to get it working but it did finally. So cudos to you and great job!! Can’t wait to see it!

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                    justjim1220 Module Developer
                    last edited by Jan 21, 2019, 4:30 AM

                    I was working with an original Surface RT which had Windows 8.1 on it.
                    The Surface itself would not allow the programs such as node, npm, electron, git bash, or MM be downloaded OR installed in any way. The RT was a joke for this kind of situation as it would only allow certain proprietary programs be downloaded and installed.

                    I was only commenting that was what I experienced with it alone. It had nothing to do with Mykle1’s walkthrough instructions, and I have not had any other Windows Tablets to try it with, But, I can say, that with any other Windows PC’s I have used his (Mykle1’s) walkthrough with has been done so without fail.

                    I’m sorry you all feel like I have no clue. But, I guess I’m just not meant to try to comment or help out with any of my experiences with all that I have tried and either met with failure or success.

                    I’m pretty sure the posts here have told me that I am nothing more than a dimbass to everyone. So, I guess this has opened my eyes that I am not welcome here anymore. :pensive_face:

                    "Life's Too Short To Dance With Ugly People"
                    Jim Hallock - 1995

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                      bhepler Module Developer @justjim1220
                      last edited by Jan 21, 2019, 12:52 PM

                      @justjim1220 said in Magic Mirror on Windows 8.1 tablet?:

                      I’m pretty sure the posts here have told me that I am nothing more than a dimbass to everyone. So, I guess this has opened my eyes that I am not welcome here anymore.

                      This seems to be a strong reaction to the thread. I wouldn’t let it bother you that much. And I would hate to see a module developer leave.

                      That Surface RT sounds like it was locked down to within and inch of its life. Did you ever get anything interesting to work on it?

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