dead SD-card every aprox. 6 months

zdenek

hi all
what do u do use for store MM? I’ve tried USB and it was slow. I’ve bought about 5 different micro SD cards (Kingston, …) but after 3-8 months, when I did restart, the RPi doesn’t start at all. Some “error” with mounting or something (fatal error…). For me the only solution was reinstall (recovery, reinstall Jessie and reinstall MM). What’s wrong? Too many access to SD card and cause fo that damage?
Any recommendation?

thanks
Zdeněk

buzzkc

Had that happen just last week, did a backup of the card using win32diskimager after it was restored.

I’m looking at setting up a read-only os to play around with and configure myself… https://medium.com/swlh/make-your-raspberry-pi-file-system-read-only-raspbian-buster-c558694de79

sdetweil

I have one system (physical location.) that eats sd cards too Pi or odroid hardware doesn’t matter…
haven’t figured out the cause yet

MadScientist

I use the cheapest SSD I could get for my Pi at that time. It’s running non-stop for 2 years without any issues. You can get 120GB SSD’s for less than 20€. A SATA-USB adapter costs around 2€ from China. Maybe that’s an option for you.
SD cards are not designed to be permanently written to. They wear out too fast.

zdenek

@MadScientist thx, sounds great, i’ll try that

marvin424

Hi Zdeněk,
SD cards have limited write cycles so it’s just a question of time when your pi will not start.

To increase their life, all manufactures have implemented an internal algorithm which uses different physical sectors when writing data to the SD-Card, see wear leveling.

You can help your hardware if you “oversize” the SD-Card, avoid ram discs and swap partitions.
I am using a 16GB SD-Card even though just 4GB is used by the system. It’s running now for more than 4 years without any trouble.

Brgds, Michael…

zdenek

@marvin424 that’s really weird. I’m also using 16 cards, in both my mirrors (one is for testing) a in both I’ve had to replace card in about 6 months max. Maybe I’m using to many modules, maybe there is al lot of writes on card… I’ll try SSD

almliden

I know this is an old thread, but hope someone finds this helpful.

Use a proper power source, one reason for SD-cards to wear out fast is that the RPi doesn’t receive enough power to actually perform the writes and therefore writes bad data which corrupts the card. Depending on which model it is it might need more power. Since I switched to better power supplies I haven’t had a dead SD-card for quite a while, so it seem to have an impact.
Use RPi-images that writes to /tmpfs, or configure them to write temporary data to RAM to reduce wear on the SD-card.
Since it hasn’t been mentioned before in this thread, avoid powering off the device by removing power since this could cancel an ongoing write which potentially could corrupt the card. If you need to power it off, do it properly.

Serge

@almliden said in dead SD-card every aprox. 6 months:

Use RPi-images that writes to /tmpfs, or configure them to write temporary data to RAM to reduce wear on the SD-card.

How to do that?

MoreLinux

@Serge said in dead SD-card every aprox. 6 months:

@almliden said in dead SD-card every aprox. 6 months:

Use RPi-images that writes to /tmpfs, or configure them to write temporary data to RAM to reduce wear on the SD-card.

How to do that?

As root user, edit the file /etc/fstab and add the following lines:

tmpfs    /tmp    tmpfs    defaults,noatime,nosuid,size=100m    0 0
tmpfs    /var/tmp    tmpfs    defaults,noatime,nosuid,size=30m    0 0
tmpfs    /var/log    tmpfs    defaults,noatime,nosuid,mode=0755,size=100m    0 0
tmpfs    /var/run    tmpfs    defaults,noatime,nosuid,mode=0755,size=2m    0 0
tmpfs    /var/spool/mqueue    tmpfs    defaults,noatime,nosuid,mode=0700,gid=12,size=30m    0 0

Now most of the write intensive files write to the Raspberry PI’s ram.

Disable the swap file, as it can be write intensive too. First check if you have swap activated with the command:

free -h

If your total swap is 0B, you are good, if not, execute the following commands:

dphys-swapfile swapoff
dphys-swapfile uninstall
systemctl disable dphys-swapfile

Now the command activated with the command:

free -h

should tell you that you are not using the swap file anymore.

sdetweil

i switched to using a small ssd USB stick, boot from the sd card, run from the usb stick… all the i/o goes to the ssd

BKeyport

can you explain how to do this, or provide a link to an explaination?

sdetweil

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/boot-raspberry-pi-from-usb,39782.html

really easy, copy all the data from sd to ssd, then change one line in sd config, reboot… voila

on one machine I had trouble with regularly, I had a 500gb ssd drive I wasn’t using…
for my main dev machine, I just bought a 128gig usb stick ssd. came with a cable, took 20 minutes to copy the data…spent $35 from amazon

sdetweil

@BKeyport I am NOT trying to BOOT from the usb stick, most pi’s don’t support that

BKeyport

Speak of the evil, the evil happens. Blew up my SD card.

sdetweil

@BKeyport boooooo

PHAGE.GOV

@MoreLinux so how do you edit this text file using root?

PHAGE.GOV

@MoreLinux said in dead SD-card every aprox. 6 months:

tmpfs /tmp tmpfs defaults,noatime,nosuid,size=100m 0 0
tmpfs /var/tmp tmpfs defaults,noatime,nosuid,size=30m 0 0
tmpfs /var/log tmpfs defaults,noatime,nosuid,mode=0755,size=100m 0 0
tmpfs /var/run tmpfs defaults,noatime,nosuid,mode=0755,size=2m 0 0
tmpfs /var/spool/mqueue tmpfs defaults,noatime,nosuid,mode=0700,gid=12,size=30m 0 0

could you potentilally give a more in-depth guide to doing this?

sdetweil

@PHAGE-GOV edit the file as root

if u are not root, then u must use the sudo prefix on a command

commands to edit on linux are vi, nano and (too many) others…

I use nano

SO its

sudo nano /etc/fstab

has nothing to do with MM, just basic linux skills.