Hello-Lucy

snikolaidis

@sdetweil Sorry trying to think of anything possible

Mykle1

on another note, i guess i said too many unkown commands or somethings and a list of all the commands possible popped up and wont go away, any thoughts other than rebooting

Oh, did you mean commands to Lucy? The Command List appeared? You can say “Hide Help” or “Close Help”.

Mykle1

Thank you @sdetweil for doing the troubleshooting on this one. :thumbsup:

majik655

@snikolaidis Did you ever figure this out? I have a pi4 and have a logitech webcam c920 … it shows as card 2 and should be 2,0 … I can record and play back in arecord Everything from what I can see works fine except when in MM Lucy talks and then when waiting for command her icon goes to ERROR.

I have gotten this to work with a sunfounder usb mic (just a crappy mic) and I was hoping the lag would be better using the webcam mic. (waiting for my new 3.5 jack microphone which should help the lag).

In any case I just do not know why Lucy doesn’t pick up the webcam mic??
@Mykle1 does it make sense it doesn’t work?

majik655

@majik655 said in Hello-Lucy:

@snikolaidis Did you ever figure this out? I have a pi4 and have a logitech webcam c920 … it shows as card 2 and should be 2,0 … I can record and play back in arecord Everything from what I can see works fine except when in MM Lucy talks and then when waiting for command her icon goes to ERROR.

I have gotten this to work with a sunfounder usb mic (just a crappy mic) and I was hoping the lag would be better using the webcam mic. (waiting for my new 3.5 jack microphone which should help the lag).

In any case I just do not know why Lucy doesn’t pick up the webcam mic??
@Mykle1 does it make sense it doesn’t work?

Well I THOUGHT I had the crappy usb microphone working on my RPI 4 but I am wrong …Same issue as with webcam.
I do know I had this working on my RPI3 last night with crappy usb microphone… The only difference I can see is on the RPI3 it put the usb mic on CARD 1 . on the rpi4 no matter what I put in as a usb mic…it puts it as CARD 2 device 0. On the RPI4 I have “headphones” as card1 and HDMI as 0. I get sound out of both hdmi and 3.5 jack (headphones)…Arecord does record using either usb mic I use. For whatever reason Lucy just keeps throwing ERROR when trying to initialize the mic

majik655

@majik655 @Mykle1 @snikolaidis
Well I am unsure exactly why everything all of a sudden works now but I did the following and it seemed to work.

sudo apt update
sudo apt full-upgrade
sudo reboot

Before I was always doing apt-get and never did FULL-upgrade always did apt-get upgrade

When I did the apt full-upgrade it then told me at the end that I had 200 or so items that were not being used and could remove them using autoremove…
I then rebooted and did not change a thing in my .asoundrc or anything and it all started working.

Again I am unsure what exactly fixed it… oh I also removed the usb mouse and usb keyboard (again not sure if any of this matters) but if anyone wants to see my .asoundrc config I will post it.

Currently working with Logitech c920 webcam for mic and 3.5 jack for sound out (I want to change this to HDMI but I am afraid something will break.)

Mykle1

@majik655

Well, perhaps something was corrected in the update. Hard to tell, really. Glad you got it working.

. (waiting for my new 3.5 jack microphone which should help the lag).

Am I missing something here? 3.5 jack mic on a Pi?

majik655

@Mykle1
I was speaking about getting in the mail soon my new microphone that is 3.5mm connector so I can plug it into the raspberry pi’s “headphone” jack (am I wrong it being a 3.5?)
I ordered it because as I have read through all 29 pages of this forum thread it was mentioned (so I understood) that the lag I had when the command would be recognized is due to me using a usb microphone.
At least that is what I understood … I could totally be wrong as this thread goes a long way back in time lol

Then I thought I would just move my mirror and Lucy over to my raspberry 4. And of course nothing worked over there and was probably because I used the sd card on a PI3 previously.
Anyway it is working beautifully and there is no lag (but I am using a logitech webcam now and could be the reason why there is no lag?? or maybe just the “upgrade” from a 3 to a 4 has helped)

The only thing I have issues with now is, my mirror uses a motion PIR sensor to “blank” out the screen when no motion. When you step in front of it, it shows the modules and times out back to blank in 2 minutes of no motion. I have the no signal type of monitor and just need the blanking not turning off power or anything.

So when I start the mirror all modules are shown. I believe this is because of MMM-NEW-PIR forcing the show of all modules when motion.

Even without that for some reason Lucy would ALWAYS show currentweather and weatherforecast… no matter what I did. I could just not get her to not show those on page 1.

So now I have installed NOAA3 and hope maybe I can turn off the PIR module and see if Lucy will only show herself on page one .

Otherwise it is what it is and I can work with it … thank you for everything!

majik655

@Mykle1

I do have one more question…

Is there any way to not show lucy on any pages.

Currently when I start Magic MIrror she is the only thing that shows on the screen.
My PAGEONE in config is [] (nothing… No modules)

For page two I have a few (no lucy) and is working fine.

When she shows page two…its fine… she is not there (good)…
When we go BACK to page one … she is not there (good)…

But when we first start she is there.

Is there any trick I could do to just not show her at all?
I read in an earlier post where I can change “Say, Hello Lucy” and wonder if I can just blank that area out to nothing.

But how would I go about basically removing the microphone icon ?
I could replace it with a black box or something if I have to …just don’ t know where that is.

Of course I would think just getting rid of those display things would still allow lucy to work we just visually would not see her.

EDIT: And yeah old info … looked in en.json file in translations folder and basically changing line 3 in there does nothing really. Please let me know if this is an easy task or not. THANK YOU!

bhepler

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bhepler

@majik655 said in Hello-Lucy:

I was speaking about getting in the mail soon my new microphone that is 3.5mm connector so I can plug it into the raspberry pi’s “headphone” jack (am I wrong it being a 3.5?)

Hrm. Looking at the specs, it’s a 3.5mm four-pole headphone and composite video jack. Four-pole suggests that it’s designed for headsets with a microphone. I’d want to try that to be sure, but… theoretically you could make it work if you have the right adapter. You’ll need something that will bypass the audio channels and connect to the mic contact.

The fact that it is a video out as well is still blowing my mind a bit.

sdetweil

@bhepler I think it’s speaker/headphone and video. 4 wires signal and ground for both…

no mic

majik655

@bhepler said in Hello-Lucy:

@majik655 said in Hello-Lucy:

I was speaking about getting in the mail soon my new microphone that is 3.5mm connector so I can plug it into the raspberry pi’s “headphone” jack (am I wrong it being a 3.5?)

Hrm. Looking at the specs, it’s a 3.5mm four-pole headphone and composite video jack. Four-pole suggests that it’s designed for headsets with a microphone. I’d want to try that to be sure, but… theoretically you could make it work if you have the right adapter. You’ll need something that will bypass the audio channels and connect to the mic contact.

The fact that it is a video out as well is still blowing my mind a bit.

@sdetweil said in Hello-Lucy:

@bhepler I think it’s speaker/headphone and video. 4 wires signal and ground for both…

no mic

Well great, lol guess I will be sending that one back hahaha
I must have miss understood … guess everyone that was talking about the lag using usb mic was using a computer rather than a PI . ugh.

Well no matter the video camera is gonna stay as it is working well.

Thank you guys for the reply. Now if I can only figure out how to change the text lucy puts on the screen and maybe hide lucy when first booting up MM.

Mykle1

@majik655 said in Hello-Lucy:

guess everyone that was talking about the lag using usb mic was using a computer rather than a PI .

No, and yes.

USB introduces lag in both the Pi and a pc board. I’ve tested this on an Quad Core i7 with a USB mic. The lag is awful. However, any board with a 3.5mm mic jack works exceptionally well. Near zero lag on any laptop board I’ve ever used, even 12 year old laptop boards with minimal specs. I believe USB has trouble processing audio. The use of a 3.5mm mic jack goes direct to the sound card. No extra processing by USB needed.

Anyway it is working beautifully and there is no lag

Whatever setup you are using that has no lag, I would stick with that, short of moving to a pc or laptop board.

Is there any way to not show lucy on any pages.

I assume you mean, “Say, Hello Lucy” and the microphone icon. I’ll take a look at that for you.

Mykle1

I think that using Remote-Control with Lucy can cause problems because they are both controlling HIDE/SHOW commands. If you disable Remote-Control temporarily does Hello Lucy still exhibit the issues you mentioned? The config entries for each page are how you set up your pages. Spellings and cases must be precise. The slightest error could drive you nuts.

Mykle1

So, if you don’t want the module to show at all you can add this to your custom.css file"

.Hello-Lucy {
  display: none;
}

However, you will no longer have any visual confirmation (ex. pulsing mic icon).

majik655

@Mykle1 said in Hello-Lucy:

I think that using Remote-Control with Lucy can cause problems because they are both controlling HIDE/SHOW commands. If you disable Remote-Control temporarily does Hello Lucy still exhibit the issues you mentioned? The config entries for each page are how you set up your pages. Spellings and cases must be precise. The slightest error could drive you nuts.

@Mykle1 said in Hello-Lucy:

So, if you don’t want the module to show at all you can add this to your custom.css file"
.Hello-Lucy {
  display: none;
}
However, you will no longer have any visual confirmation (ex. pulsing mic icon).

Oh Thank you for the css code! and I do understand about the no visual acknowledgment (which I have now found to be very useful).
For whatever reason when I moved my magic mirror from my garage where I have been configuring it to the living room… there is now a very long lag. For what ever reason I know it sounds crazy but in the garage there isn’t a lag. I have two theories for this… either its because wifi is stronger in garage (I dont see why this would matter at all)…or because there is more noise in the living room (which is more likely the reason)…

As for remote control I do have remote control as a module … in any of my process I have had the module installed.
I don’t feel that has anything to do with it but I will surely test this out very soon.

I have been thinking the issue lies with MMM-NewPIR since that is simply a module that instead of turning off power or going to stanby to “hide modules” it “covers” it. Well from what they said they made it sound like they just put up a black screen.
But the more I think about it they must do more because no matter what when the mirror goes to “sleep” because of no motion… when it comes back on because of motion ALL MODULES are shown.

So right now my Lucy config is below… and when MM first boots up … with this config Lucy is the only one showing on page 1 (page 2 works fine) if I switch to page to then back to page 1 Lucy does not show.
If I turn off MMM-NewPIR I have the same result… so I will try disabling MMM-Remote (as you suggested) and see if that works.

I guess I want to confirm from this config… when the mirror starts up, nothing should show on first page not even Lucy …correct?

             {
                       disabled: false,
                       module: "Hello-Lucy",
                       position: "bottom_left",
                       config: {
                                       keyword: 'HELLO LUCY',             
                                       timeout: 10,                        
                                       standByMethod: 'HIDE',             
                                       microphone: "2,0",               
                                       sounds: [""],      
                                       confirmationSound: "ding.mp3",  
                                       startHideAll: true,  
                                       pageOneModules: [],          
                                      pageTwoModules: ["MMM-Reddit","MMM-Screencast","MMM-EARTH-Live","clock"], }
},

majik655

@Mykle1 said in Hello-Lucy:

I think that using Remote-Control with Lucy can cause problems because they are both controlling HIDE/SHOW commands. If you disable Remote-Control temporarily does Hello Lucy still exhibit the issues you mentioned? The config entries for each page are how you set up your pages. Spellings and cases must be precise. The slightest error could drive you nuts.

Well I have commented out everything in my config file except for “clock” module and Lucy.
For Lucy I have the config file like in my last post but I even have nothing in the second page.

When MM boots , Lucy shows bottom left corner. I suppose this is normal because why would you want her not there? I was wanting it that way because she was working really well with no lag… but for whatever reason not the case in a different room…crazy!

Mykle1

@majik655 said in Hello-Lucy:

I guess I want to confirm from this config… when the mirror starts up, nothing should show on first page not even Lucy …correct?

Your config entry is correct. I also see that Lucy is shown in this case. Changing pages and going back to page 1 and Lucy is gone. Odd. Use the css .