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    [ORDER CLOSED] Two way mirror order in Germany

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      tomster
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      Thx for your reply Chriz,

      of course I cannot outrule anything. I took the mirrors from the driver and brought them directly to my living-room. To my dearest knowledge no-one else but me has touched the mirror since. That is why I came to the assumption it might have been transport damage.
      The glass chip (~7mm in diameter) looks like a “Abplatzung” as if the mirror was put to the floor on the edge-side and some sort of tiny pebble was sitting there. I do have no real explanation for the cracks though.

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        Binog
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        Hey there !
        I thought I should pose some pictures of my mirror. At first: Thanx to You @Goldjunge_Chriz for all Your effort. It was kind of challenging my human faith, too. Had the same crazy thoughts as @yawns had. As specially as the recipient of the mirror (and the guy who paid ;-) had no idea, that this was actually his present. (so not much financial risk,. put a friendship…so it had to end well!) So, thx god, nothing was cracked - I feel really sorry for You, @tomster !!

        Short review:
        As in the last picture, the mirror seems darker, compared to the wall,. the red shiny is the light installation and confuses a little bit.
        Comparing the first image (monitor settings eco2 of 4(no eco), brightness 45%) to the other one, You see the mirror is indeed dropping light emission significantly. In a sunny condition, You have to really concentrate to read the text. (light is coming from the ceiling and the window a meter next to the mirror’s wall. None the less, it is more important in the evening and the morning hours.

        To those who might ask. Yes, the monitor is smaller than the mirror, that is not that bad, so don’t have so much heating problem. I was been able to put a pass-par-tout around with a tiny whole for the NOIR-Cam which switches the monitor on and off.

        I want to put out, that it wasn’t that easy to fix the mirror on the frame, and I am not that sure, if my way was the best. How did You guys fix the mirror on your wodden frame??

        Thanx again Chriz for all Your effort !! I really appreciate that !!

        0_1491672417892_picture1.jpg 0_1491672426891_picture2.jpg 0_1491672438503_picture3.jpg

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          Advokaten
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          If insurance won’t cover the damages - I’d like to propose a funding for @tomster as one of his mirrors broke, if there is any interest in this community for such a thing? If everyone chips in, it won’t be that much each.

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            Goldjunge_Chriz @Binog
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            @Binog

            Thanks for your review and the great pictures :) Did I understand correctly that you are altogether very satisfied? As already described above, there is no mirror that works perfectly in hundreds of different light conditions. This one makes it however already quite properly and is a good mixture. If on a television for example the sunshine falls directly on it you can see nothing more ;) You can see, nothing is absolutely Perfect.

            @Advokaten
            Great Idea. I am in ;)

            @all

            New additional insights about the mirror glass we could make from the first order:

            • The mirror glass works easily with cameras and motion detection systems behind it
            • the mirror glass can easily be glued for the frame-free use.
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              Advokaten @Goldjunge_Chriz
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              @Goldjunge_Chriz so a PIR sensor, for example, can see through it? That’s awesome!

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                strawberry 3.141 Project Sponsor Module Developer @Advokaten
                last edited by

                @Advokaten I guess he means motion detection with a camera

                Please create a github issue if you need help, so I can keep track

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                  Hawking @Goldjunge_Chriz
                  last edited by Hawking

                  @Goldjunge_Chriz said in [ORDER CLOSED] Two way mirror order in Germany:

                  New additional insights about the mirror glass we could make from the first order:

                  • The mirror glass works easily with cameras and motion detection systems behind it
                  • the mirror glass can easily be glued for the frame-free use.

                  Can you provide more details (what type of camera, how did you attach it to the mirror. …) and maybe even a picture of the setup?. Thanks.

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                    Goldjunge_Chriz @Hawking
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                    @Hawking

                    @Lolobyte can say more about that :)

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                      cpramhofer
                      last edited by

                      The most important Question: will there be a second chance to place an order? this time i will organize a personal transport from Germany to Vienna :)

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                        Goldjunge_Chriz @cpramhofer
                        last edited by Goldjunge_Chriz

                        @cpramhofer said in [ORDER CLOSED] Two way mirror order in Germany:

                        The most important Question: will there be a second chance to place an order? this time i will organize a personal transport from Germany to Vienna :)

                        Please have a look at this thread:
                        https://forum.magicmirror.builders/topic/2016/two-way-mirror-order-in-germany-accumulation-for-2nd-round/

                        The transport of big mirrors to austria is now also possible ;)

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                          Ali Baba
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                          Today Finale My mirror arrived. All Fine. Trank you Chris for your exzellent work.👍🏽

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                            Binog
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                            @Goldjunge_Chriz Yes I am very satisfied !

                            @Hawking I used a official Raspberry NoIR Camera attached via the wired-band to the cis-port of a Raspberry 3. The attachments to the mirror is kind of special, cause it is depending of ones setting.
                            As You can see in the pictures I used the cut-off of the pass-par-tout as a first framework, pooled two screws in it, unfortunately one was shorter than the other one, that is, in the other picture, You realized the camera is odd, but that doesn’t matter as I didn’t want to take photos rather then detect motion. The image by raspistill is very unsharp, but that isn’t important either. It does what it does, detecting motion.
                            As the pass-par-tout is kind of foam I could screw-in the screw directly. In total the framework fits neatly between monitor and mirror-frame.

                            Hopefully that helps build Your mirror.

                            0_1491843134531_cam1.jpg
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                              Binog
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                              Hey folks, could You please post some photos, how You fixed the mirrorglas to Your framework!? Thank You !

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                                lolobyte @Goldjunge_Chriz
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                                @Hawking

                                Here is my Cam picture behind the mirror from @Goldjunge_Chriz.

                                RaspiCam with old mirror glass
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                                RaspiCam with new mirror glass
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                                my Mirror
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                                  tomster @Advokaten
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                                  @Advokaten
                                  Thank you very much for the kind offer. But having had a good sleep or two over the issue I managed to find peace with myself again ;-) All in all it’s just a broken mirror…
                                  I did order a second mirror along with the first and decided to simply change my plans for its use. I went to my local glass shop and asked them to cut it in half. That way I will end up with 2 mirrors. Ok, they are different in size now, but hey? I will end up with 2 mirrors still :)

                                  Again, I really do appreciate your offer as it proves a hell of a lot in regards of community spirit. Especially since it is not the fault of any of you. I do hope though that you do not bother that I have to turn down your offer. Everything is fine.

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                                    Hawking @lolobyte
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                                    Thanks for the pictures.

                                    @lolobyte said in [ORDER CLOSED] Two way mirror order in Germany:

                                    @Hawking

                                    Here is my Cam picture behind the mirror from @Goldjunge_Chriz.

                                    What do you mean by “old mirror glass” and “new mirror glass”? Anyway, both pictures look very good, I hope that even gesture detection trough the glass should be possible. Can you also provide details how you attached the raspi-camera (regular or also noir variant?) at the back of the mirror?

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                                      lolobyte @Hawking
                                      last edited by

                                      @Hawking

                                      like @Goldjunge_Chriz said and i mentioned, the new mirror glass is the one from @Goldjunge_Chriz .

                                      My setup is like this.

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                                        Advokaten @lolobyte
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                                        @lolobyte, and the front/side?? Thanks!

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                                          lolobyte
                                          last edited by

                                          is the mirror???

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                                            lolobyte @Advokaten
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                                            @Advokaten maybe this will help you!

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