UPDATE: Replaced my PIR-Sensor with a Doppler Microwave Sensor.

[Fozi]

Hmmm…that’s strange.
Here is my config for MMM-Pir-Sensor I use:

//----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
{
        module: 'MMM-PIR-Sensor',
        config: {
        sensorPin: 4,
        powerSavingDelay: 150, // (seconds) how long the monitor will be turned on
        
        }
},
//----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

And this is the wiring of the sensor with the GPIO, which corresponds to the above config. ‘sensorPin: 4’ corresponds to GPIO_4 (brown cable)

[lavolp3]

@Fozi The odd thing is that I didn’t even get the module installed properly. However, just tried again and it seems to work now. Maybe because of MM v 2.10.0. I don’t know…

[Fozi]

@lavolp3 great!

[hedmik]

More or less the same problem for me…
I’m using a velleman VMA314 connected to GPIO pin 11 (BCM GPIO 17) and module MMM-PIR-Sensor.
I’ve updated wiringPi for Pi 4 (wiringPi updated to 2.52 for the Raspberry Pi 4B)
I see that state changes using “gpio readall” but nothing happens…or to start with, connected screen does not even turn off after time set in config:

		{
			module: 'MMM-PIR-Sensor',
			config: {
			// See 'Configuration options' for more information.
				sensorPin: 17, // The pin (BCM numbering, NOT pin number itself) your PIR-sensor is connected to.
				powerSaving: true, // Should the monitor be turned off if no user is present? (via HDMI or relay)
				powerSavingDelay: 5, // Additional software side delay (in seconds) before the monitor will be turned off.
				powerSavingNotification: true, // To display a notification before to switch screen off
				powerSavingMessage: "Skärmen stängs av på grund av inaktivitet..." // Message notification to display before to switch screen off
				
			}
		},

[hedmik]

@hedmik sorry, my bad, i was editing config in another pi…
Now it’s working now as it should :-)

[sdetweil]

@hedmik said in UPDATE: Replaced my PIR-Sensor with a Doppler Microwave Sensor.:

i was editing config in another pi

doesn’t that drive u crazy?! I have 5 devices running, and all have open editors and file managers…
in the editor I can’t tell where the file came from…

[Fozi]

You made my day, guys! 🤣

[hedmik]

This post is deleted!

[hedmik]

@sdetweil :rolling_on_the_floor_laughing:
Yes, i’ve built two mirrors and now working on my third bathroom mirror and with x number of files open in Notepad++ it’s getting messy…and even if you can see the file name and it’s location (host name) you end up editing elsewhere :dizzy_face:

[devmil]

What type of mirror glass do you all have?

I have a Pilkington Mirropane Chrome Spy and to me it seems that this type of Mirror glass interferes with the RCWL-0516.

When doing tests (mirror glass taken off) the sensor works as expected but as soon as I put the mirror glass back it stops working through the glass.
Waving my hand at the side still works.

Greetings
Michael

[Fozi]

@devmil I have the same mirror, but 4mm thick, and it works really well. Thickness shouldn’t be an issue, because the sensor is easily able to detect motions in adjacent rooms separated by stone walls. I‘d suggest to increase slightly the sensitivity by increasing the trimmer value.

Further check the soldering joints between trimmer and sensor. Maybe they need to be reworked so that the solder provides a proper connection.

[hedmik]

@devmil Hi Michael, i’ve been testing with d-c-fix mirror-effect privacy film and acrylic oneway mirror and both is interfering the PIR sensor so i had to put in a small box above the frame. Not a fancy design though…
For the acrylic i have spare place beneath the screen so i drilled a hole.
For the upcoming bath mirror i’ve ordered a Pilkington MirrorView. Don’t know yet if it will work with the sensor behind that glass though…otherwise i’ll put in a separate place/box. Hard to drill the glass and wouldn’t dare trying :-|

[uros76]

This is just amazing and pity I didn’t see it before I went into PIR usage.
If I put aluminum insulation on one side of sensor, can anyone confirm this can be used as 180-degree use?

[Fozi]

@uros76 the detection range will very likely be more than 180 degree, as the emission characteristic is more or less spherical. Further, the detection range depends also on the layout of your rooms, walls etc. Just give it a try and see what the result is.

[cowboysdude]

@bachoo786 I have discovered that in the newer versions of the operating software for the PI that my scripts do NOT work any longer as the commands to turn the monitor on and off have changed… I have as of yet to find the correct command lines to make it work. I tested for 3 days and couldn’t get it to turn back on… It’s not MM…

[uros76]

@cowboysdude scripts works fine with my pi3.

It seems pi4 has different way of putting a monitor to sleep, I never figured out how to do it on pi4.
Instead, I tested lubuntu on pi4 and managed to put it out of sleep with this mouse click script linked to PIR motion:

xdotool click 1

I can share more details on lubuntu setup if needed.

[cowboysdude]

@uros76 said in UPDATE: Replaced my PIR-Sensor with a Doppler Microwave Sensor.:

@cowboysdude scripts works fine with my pi3.

It seems pi4 has different way of putting a monitor to sleep, I never figured out how to do it on pi4.
Instead, I tested lubuntu on pi4 and managed to put it to sleep with this mouse click script linked to PIR motion:

xdotool click 1

I can share more details on lubuntu setup if needed.

Yes it works great on a Pi3… :) I am still using it for that…

Yes please… I’d like to update the script for Pi4 but haven’t been able to get it working…
Thank you!

[uros76]

Ok.
So, for a pi4 I managed to get PIR waking up MM screen with these steps:

• Install latest Lubuntu with gdm3 environment
• Edit /etd/gdm3/custom.conf. This will set autologin so that desktop environment loads every reboot

# Enabling automatic login
  AutomaticLoginEnable = true
  AutomaticLogin = yourusername

• Follow these steps to create wakeup script https://www.ketzler.de/2017/12/exit-screensaver-on-raspberry-pi-with-motion-sensor/
• Create file “/etc/xdg/autostart/motion.desktop” with the following contents. This runs PIR sensing in the background after every reboot

[Desktop Entry]
Name=motion
Exec=sudo gpio-watch -e rising 4

• Set screensaver blank screen to desired timeout, 1min in my case. Lubutu knows how to handle pi4 blanking and puts to sleep my hdmi monitor

This way I got pi4 waking up with PIR sensing. Not ideal setup but it works.
I spent too much time trying to get pi4 work properly with Rapsberian, I simply had too many issues with it.
At the end I am using pi3 for my first production MM and the pi4 is waiting for the next project.

[cowboysdude]

@uros76 same here. I tried the Pi4 and had issues so I went back to the 3 and all the issues went away… so mine also sits waiting for the next project ;)

Thank you for the info!!!

[uros76]

Update on my MM setup. I finally took the time and now I have a working microwave sensor using the MMM-NewPIR module to automatically turn off and on LCD screen. For testing, I set the trimpot to 160ohms and it works ok through the normal glass. And this is all working on pi4 (2GB ram) using Rapsberrian. I have no clue why now all the sudden pi4 works just fine. Last week when I was testing I gave up :).

Anyway, so far good and happy with the setup. Now waiting for mirror glass and then setting up the sensor sensitivity and assembly.