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    stronger Raspberry Pi 3 Alternatives

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    • cowboysdudeC Offline
      cowboysdude Module Developer @Damian
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      @Damian said in stronger Raspberry Pi 3 Alternatives:

      JRE

      I didn’t do dual boot only because well Windows is blah LOL

      I straight just installed Unbuntu then followed the instructions for manual Magic Mirror install and I’ve had no problems at all! :)

      Here’s a guide for Unbuntu:

      https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/tutorial-install-ubuntu-desktop#0

      I installed from a USB Stick :)

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        Damian @cowboysdude
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        @cowboysdude said in stronger Raspberry Pi 3 Alternatives:

        @Damian said in stronger Raspberry Pi 3 Alternatives:

        JRE

        Yes, was unsure if I needed to install the Java Runtime Environment as a seperate, or whether ubuntu installs that itself? Or indeed if it is needed at all?

        I didn’t do dual boot only because well Windows is blah LOL

        Agree, but i want to keep it on the other half of the 500gb drive for a future project.

        I straight just installed Unbuntu then followed the instructions for manual Magic Mirror install and I’ve had no problems at all! :)

        Good to know there is no issues/problems to look out for. This will be first time installing and using ubuntu, so was unsure if it is as straight forward as raspbian to set up and run, and get MM on top.

        I will now look forward to use MM without the usual RP3 constraints.

        Here’s a guide for Unbuntu:

        https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/tutorial-install-ubuntu-desktop#0

        I installed from a USB Stick :)

        Than you very much for this, I will have an enjoyable weekend setting this all up.

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        • strawberry 3.141S Offline
          strawberry 3.141 Project Sponsor Module Developer @Damian
          last edited by

          @Damian does it make sense then to just setup ubuntu for magicmirror? You got windows already and magicmirror works also on windows

          Please create a github issue if you need help, so I can keep track

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            Damian @strawberry 3.141
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            @strawberry-3.141 said in stronger Raspberry Pi 3 Alternatives:

            @Damian You got windows already and magicmirror works also on windows

            I never thought about that. :-(

            I just went back over posts here and seen one from @Mykle1 about setting up on his windows PC

            https://forum.magicmirror.builders/topic/4089/complete-walkthrough-install-magicmirror-on-a-pc-windows-7

            I just thought that MM would run better on a linux distro system partition, more than on a full Win system? If there is a difference that is?

            Thanks for that, as this will save some time, and thanks to @Mykle1 for his guide.

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            • cowboysdudeC Offline
              cowboysdude Module Developer @Damian
              last edited by

              @Damian I don’t think it really matters. I just prefer Linux … Just easier for me.

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                Damian @cowboysdude
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                @cowboysdude said in stronger Raspberry Pi 3 Alternatives:

                @Damian I don’t think it really matters. I just prefer Linux … Just easier for me.

                Thank you. Really looking forward to seeing the difference in power with MM.

                fyi… I was going to build an itx like you mentioned in here, but seen a mint condition Lenovo Q180 going for a song on ebay, so bought it, and it is perfect for my next MM. 2.13 GHz 4GB ram 500GB HDD.

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                • cowboysdudeC Offline
                  cowboysdude Module Developer
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                  Makes a HUGE difference :) You’ll love it.

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                  • emloweE Offline
                    emlowe Module Developer
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                    Here is another option:

                    ASRock N3150DC-ITX Mini-ITX Motherboard - if you can find one.

                    SoC – Intel Celeron N3150 quad core processor @ up to 2.08 GHz with Intel HD Graphics Gen8 @ up to 640 MHz – 6W TDP

                    There are some other Celeron SoC boards that take 19v DC power. The Asus Q1900DC-ITX uses the J1900.

                    Look for “Thin Mini-ITX” normally that means the DC in.

                    -Earle

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                      j.e.f.f Project Sponsor Module Developer @cowboysdude
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                      @cowboysdude How is the miniATX for heat generation and dissipation when your mirror is hanging up against the wall? Do you need to use a fan on the cpu or gpu? My Pi3 already runs in the high 60’s Celcius without a fan (I’m not using face recognition, or this would likely be much worse)… I’d be concerned that the extra power and limited airflow would generate a significant amount of heat, and adding a fan would result in an annoying whirring sound – ideally I’d want the mirror to operate silently.

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                      • cowboysdudeC Offline
                        cowboysdude Module Developer @j.e.f.f
                        last edited by cowboysdude

                        @j.e.f.f right now I don’t have it all together so I can’t really answer that question. BUT it has crossed my mind… so I’m going to run a fan off of the motherboard and run it to the top of the ‘frame’ to get rid of the heat. If you buy a high quality fan the noise shouldn’t be a problem…

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                          j.e.f.f Project Sponsor Module Developer @cowboysdude
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                          @cowboysdude When you have it all put together, let us know what the noise from the fan is like.

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                          • cowboysdudeC Offline
                            cowboysdude Module Developer @j.e.f.f
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                            @j.e.f.f Will do!

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                            • Mykle1M Offline
                              Mykle1 Project Sponsor Module Developer @j.e.f.f
                              last edited by Mykle1

                              @j.e.f.f said in stronger Raspberry Pi 3 Alternatives:

                              let us know what the noise from the fan is like.

                              My experience with the fan.

                              My thoughts about using a fan:

                              In my case, if there is any form of ambient sound in the room, I don’t hear the fan at all. If the window is open, if the tv or radio is on, anything at all then I can’t hear the fan. I listened for it when I first installed it.

                              When do I hear it? At night, when the windows are closed, tv is off, and the house is absolutely silent. The mirror is not in my bedroom, although that wouldn’t matter. My wife’s snoring can mask the sound of a 747 on liftoff.

                              Create a working config
                              How to add modules

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                              • cowboysdudeC Offline
                                cowboysdude Module Developer
                                last edited by cowboysdude

                                Well here’s step 1 for my big mirror… I wanted something stronger then a PI so here is my mini-itx in its new home… Cooling is NOT an issue… it’s about 13" square and about 3 inches tall :) Easy to put out of the way … NOW to build a frame for the ‘display’… Coming soon!

                                0_1504138490290_IMG_2879.png

                                HERE is how it all stays cool…this fan is totally SILENT… LOVE IT!
                                https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835220067

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                                • Mykle1M Offline
                                  Mykle1 Project Sponsor Module Developer @cowboysdude
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                                  @cowboysdude said in stronger Raspberry Pi 3 Alternatives:

                                  Easy to put out of the way … NOW to build a frame for the ‘display’

                                  Great idea! Now hurry the hell up with the frame! :^)

                                  Create a working config
                                  How to add modules

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                                  • cowboysdudeC Offline
                                    cowboysdude Module Developer @Mykle1
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                                    @Mykle1 I’m working on it COMING SOON

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                                    • J Offline
                                      j.e.f.f Project Sponsor Module Developer @cowboysdude
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                                      @cowboysdude is the idea that the mini atx sits beside the mirror as opposed to being built? Say on a console table with just an HDMI cable running to the screen?

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                                      • cowboysdudeC Offline
                                        cowboysdude Module Developer @j.e.f.f
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                                        @j.e.f.f No it will be underneath as I’m building into a type of desk/cabinet

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                                        • SnilleS Offline
                                          Snille Module Developer
                                          last edited by Snille

                                          All, I have got the Libre Computer now. Trying my best to get the mirror up. Ran in to a small hitch. There is no chromedriver for arm64 yet. They are working on it and there is a PR but it has not yet gone completely through it seems. I’ll see if I can figure it out some how anyway. :)

                                          I’ll come back to this thread as soon as I gotten MM up and running.

                                          If you cant find it, make it and share it!
                                          Modules: MMM-homeassistant-sensors, MMM-Modulebar, MMM-Profilepicture, MMM-Videoplayer

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                                            stacywebb @Snille
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                                            @Snille
                                            I’ve gotten it working a Pine Rock64 (arm64 also).

                                            Downloaded electron-v1.7.5-linux-arm64.zip listed under electron’s PR

                                            One thing to note: when downloading from the link, the site’s cert has expired.

                                            From terminal:

                                            // Since the cert for the site has expired (but is safe)
                                            
                                            wget --no-check-certificate https://www.hamidx9.ir/dl/electron_arm64/electron-v1.7.5-linux-arm64.zip
                                            
                                            // Important make sure to unzip to your electron path
                                            
                                            unzip electron-v1.7.5-linux-arm64.zip ~/MagicMirror/node_modules/electron/dist/
                                            
                                            

                                            Once done just started as usual (npm start).

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