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    • B Offline
      barnosch
      last edited by

      is it the power supply which is very hot, or is it the Pi?

      Is it the power supply, replace it like Mykle1 said. Thats way to hot.

      If its the pi, install

      sudo apt-get install htop
      

      and run it in the console with a simple “htop”
      you should see now the load of the pi and see which apps maybe take the power of the cpus, which cause the pi to get so hot. Tehn you can take further action.

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      • J Offline
        jaerenull
        last edited by

        Thanks for that! Yeah the only app that I have running on it is my Magic Mirror. And it’s the pi itself that is getting hot.

        So the 1amp power supply isn’t too low to run a Pi on? I thought it needed a 2.5 amp?

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        • brobergB Offline
          broberg Project Sponsor @jaerenull
          last edited by

          @jaerenull 1A is way to low. the rpi3 needs a 2.5A so you are right on that

          Buy a heat sink for the pi, it’s cheap and does help.

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          • Mykle1M Offline
            Mykle1 Project Sponsor Module Developer @jaerenull
            last edited by

            @jaerenull

            @broberg is absolutely right. Heat sinks will help. Couple those with a tiny fan blowing on the heat sinks and you’ll see even more dramatic results.

            I’m surprised you’re not seeing the little “lightning bolt” appear on screen that indicates you are under powering the Pi

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            • J Offline
              jaerenull
              last edited by jaerenull

              No, mine is 2.5 amp. I thought yours was 1A due to this on the amazon description:

              "This adapter has been specially designed and tested for the raspberry Pi and can deliver a full 1A without the output voltage dropping below the recommended 5V necessary for reliable Raspberry Pi operation. "
              This is my power supply right now.
              MicroCenter 2.5A Power supply
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              I’ve tried two of them on different outlets on two different Raspberry Pis. I really don’t know what I’m doing wrong lol.
              So I should probably go get the fans then and combine that with the heat sink?
              I’ll try that if that’s what everyone recommends!

              For some reason it wasn’t letting me link to the micro center site. It said that it was flagging me as spam for that.

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              • Mykle1M Offline
                Mykle1 Project Sponsor Module Developer @jaerenull
                last edited by Mykle1

                @jaerenull

                Oh crap! I gave you the wrong link. Mine IS 2.5 amp. Sorry about that. I don’t want to give out bad information.

                https://www.amazon.com/CanaKit-Raspberry-Supply-Adapter-Charger/dp/B00MARDJZ4/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1513857884&sr=1-1-fkmr0&keywords=CanaKit+Raspberry+Pi+Micro+USB+Power+Supply+2.5amp

                If you’re asking for opinions then I would say definitely get at least one of the two. I bought the heat sinks when I bought my Pi3. I added the fan later and saw significant improvement

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                • B Offline
                  barnosch
                  last edited by

                  again. check the Pi.
                  I am pretty sure, that its not getting to hot, because of undervoltage of the powersupply.

                  I guess there is a stuck service or something, which causes the pi to work on its limit.

                  Disable VNC if not used, disable Bluetooth if not used, and so on. Delete unneccesary stuff like Wolfram, python games…and so on.
                  (google for cleaning up the pi)

                  i had something happening like this, after installing some additional stuff on the mirror-pi. and it was not erased clearly after removing. Same issue. After research and manually erasing the services and files, all was good again.

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                  • ? Offline
                    A Former User
                    last edited by

                    How are your experiences with fans for the pi3 ?
                    Do I need to be worried about the noise ?
                    Currently my MagicMirror pi runs on about 60 degrees ( idle, no fan, no heatsink, no case , alexa-pi is probably already running )
                    As soon as I start MagicMirror, it goes up to 80 degrees and the thermal limiter kicks in.
                    How much I could gain from just using heatsinks ?
                    Later I am going to close the mirror enclosure and regardless how many ventilation holes I am going to drill, I am afraid, it might get quite warm inside.
                    As a comparison, I am running a small FHEM installation on a pi2, 40 degrees without sinks.

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                    • Mykle1M Offline
                      Mykle1 Project Sponsor Module Developer
                      last edited by

                      I don’t recommend closing the back of your mirror. I do recommend using a fan.

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                      • cruunnerrC Offline
                        cruunnerr
                        last edited by cruunnerr

                        i agree with @barnosch
                        the power supply is not causing the heat problem! Well, if u can call it a problem… 66-70° while running magic mirror is ok. As barnosch said u probably can reduce it by removing unused stuff. :)

                        @howi42
                        maybe same recommendation here. Remove unused stuff. Thats the reason, why i am a fan of using the Lite versions of raspbian ^^
                        Alexa-pi is maybe waiting all the time for your voice and that also needs CPU Power. And MagicMirror can raise the temp, too when using much modules. Especially when using modules with animation…

                        Just to say:
                        I am running my Magic Mirror in a completely closed frame (without any holes). Just put the small heatsinks u can buy everywhere on eBay on it and i have temperatures about 58-63°. When the monitor is on for about 10 minutes it will raise to max. 66-67°.

                        For using a fan regulated by the Pi’s temperature u can check this: https://forum.magicmirror.builders/topic/6495/temperature-regulated-fan-on-rpi/3

                        @mykle1
                        Didn’t see your post, cause i was writing.
                        But i never understood your temperature and your System Load :D
                        even with using raspbian Lite and just installing MM i never got this results. Even when the Pi lays on my table with heatsinks.^^
                        was always above 50°

                        Maybe u are sitting in an igloo XD

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