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    {HowTo} turn on/off your monitor (Time based, PIR/Button, App)

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    • randomnoiseR Offline
      randomnoise @hnperkins
      last edited by

      @hnperkins yes, if it’s always showing a 1 then your sensor is ‘inverted’ to the standard way most pir boards work. Note it should go to 0 when the pir detects movement (you might need to continually wave your hand in front of the pir at the exact moment you hit enter after typing the gpio read to see the 0. If you never see a 0 then you may have a faulty pir).

      Although I initially did get my ‘inverted’ sensor working using the invert configuration option in paviros module, it eventually stopped working correctly (my mirror would register a false detection every 3 mins or so causing my screen to stay always on). Not sure why it broke… seemed to happen after I upgraded to a newer version of mm, but issue didn’t go away after I tried rolling back. Final thing I did to stop false triggering was to install a ferrite choke on my input wire & to move where my pi sat at the back of my monitor (it was quite close to the monitors power converter initially).

      Ultimately the way I got it working was to buy a different pir board (the kind with the 2 potentiometers for sensitivity & time adjustment) which also happened to be 0 for no movement & 1 for movement). I then used the pir.py script instead of the module to trigger screen on / off. I was fairly sure it wasn’t a single faulty pir unit (mine came in a pack of 3) but nothing I did got it working so in the end spending an extra fiver on a different type of pir seemed worth it to me.

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        fabbr
        last edited by

        I had the script running and all I got was “…” turns out I had the POWER and GROUND swapped because I was following the drawing on the initial post. I suggest looking at the your PIR board to make sure you are connecting the wires on the correct order.

        Overall fantastic write up. Thanks for sharing

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          hnperkins @fabbr
          last edited by

          @fabbr i just got it working today. hadn’t had time to mess with it much. i was able to invert it in the config for the plugin and its been working great

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          • F Offline
            fabbr
            last edited by

            I used the method 2.2 Using PIR-Script and it work fine however, after a long period of time (that the screen is off and I am not doing anything on the raspberry) when I move in front of the PIR I can see the ON signal is sent to my monitor (the monitor LED change) but all I get is a blank screen.

            I did some testing and notice that when I connect with VNC to the raspberry the screen immediately comes back on so it makes me wonder if there’s some kind of screensaver or something of that nature that is on.

            Does anyone knows anything about this or had this problem before?

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            • Mykle1M Offline
              Mykle1 Project Sponsor Module Developer @fabbr
              last edited by Mykle1

              @fabbr

              Have you disabled the screensaver? The easiest, most common way of doing that is to install xscreensaver and disable the screensaver that way

              Create a working config
              How to add modules

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                fabbr @Mykle1
                last edited by yawns

                @Mykle1 Thank you that was the problem. Xscreensaver was easy use. Thanks

                Another problem I had was: when I changed the orientation of my monitor when it was coming back on all I saw was a black screen… so I did more research and found that that I could replace the tvservice for:

                vcgencmd display_power 0 turns off the screen

                vcgencmd display_power 1 turns on the screen

                That worked better with my monitor for some reason.

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                • B Offline
                  blebbens
                  last edited by

                  Thanks for this tutorial…

                  I am using a PIR. The monitor switches on immediately after detection of motion. I am looking for an option to switch on the monitor if a person stands in front of it for 10 seconds. Mine is a floor mirror, so some people are crossing the floor many times a day without looking at the mirror.

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                  • cruunnerrC Offline
                    cruunnerr @blebbens
                    last edited by

                    @blebbens said in {HowTo} turn on/off your monitor (Time based, PIR/Button, App):

                    Thanks for this tutorial…

                    I am using a PIR. The monitor switches on immediately after detection of motion. I am looking for an option to switch on the monitor if a person stands in front of it for 10 seconds. Mine is a floor mirror, so some people are crossing the floor many times a day without looking at the mirror.

                    If u use the external PIR script (point 2.2) u could try to change line 25 in the script and define a TURNON-DELAY.

                    if turned_off and time.time() >= TURNON_DELAY:
                    

                    The whole script would look like this:

                    #!/usr/bin/env python
                    
                    import sys
                    import time
                    import RPi.GPIO as io
                    import subprocess
                    
                    io.setmode(io.BCM)
                    SHUTOFF_DELAY = 120 # in seconds, how long the monitor will be on until next button press or PIR detection
                    TURNON_DELAY = 10
                    PIR_PIN = 22       # 15 on the board (this needn't to be a PIR. Can be a button also)
                    LED_PIN = 16      # optional, don't use as Relay-PIN. It just shows detection time of the PIR without delay time
                    
                    def main():
                        io.setup(PIR_PIN, io.IN)
                        io.setup(LED_PIN, io.OUT)
                        turned_off = False
                        last_motion_time = time.time()
                    
                        while True:
                            if io.input(PIR_PIN):
                                last_motion_time = time.time()
                                io.output(LED_PIN, io.LOW)
                                print ".",
                                sys.stdout.flush()
                                if turned_off and time.time() >= TURNON_DELAY:
                                    turned_off = False
                                    turn_on()
                            else:
                                if not turned_off and time.time() > (last_motion_time + 
                                                                     SHUTOFF_DELAY):
                                    turned_off = True
                                    turn_off()
                                if not turned_off and time.time() > (last_motion_time + 1):
                                    io.output(LED_PIN, io.HIGH)
                            time.sleep(.1)
                    
                    def turn_on():
                    	subprocess.call("sh /home/pi/monitor_on.sh", shell=True)
                    
                    def turn_off():
                    	subprocess.call("sh /home/pi/monitor_off.sh", shell=True)
                    
                    if __name__ == '__main__':
                        try:
                            main()
                        except KeyboardInterrupt:
                            io.cleanup()
                    
                    

                    Don’t know if it will work. Just brainstorming cause i haven’t much time

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                      erycken
                      last edited by

                      This is really helpful! Thanks.
                      I have a PIR motion sensor set up, but I am trying to work out if it is possible (or better yet already exists) to have the motion sensor become unresponsive/display not actually active during night hours (predefined by me) as I have the mirror set up in my room and if I get up during the night I don’t want it coming on as I never turn lights on since it takes forever for me to get back to sleep!
                      I do want the motion sensor to work like normal during the day however. Does the Cronjob method prevent the sensor from working during the on hours?

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                      • cruunnerrC Offline
                        cruunnerr
                        last edited by

                        Hey mate,

                        the way that will work in every case is to use a relay to interrupt the voltage for the pir.
                        Then write two little bash files and execute them via cronjob.


                        turn on relay with GPIO 7 and give the PIR voltage:

                        gpio mode 7 out
                        gpio write 7 1
                        

                        turn off the relay with GPIO 7 and interrupt the PIR voltage:

                        gpio mode 7 out
                        gpio write 7 0
                        

                        otherwise u could use if statement with a datetime check within the python script. something like this: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/10048249/how-do-i-determine-if-current-time-is-within-a-specified-range-using-pythons-da/10048290

                        If i find some time, i will try to adjust the python script from this tutorial…

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                        • K Offline
                          Kecko
                          last edited by

                          Hey, big thanks for this tutorial!

                          i want to use method 2.2 the PIR-Script.

                          My Problem is: it looks like there is always a movement detected!
                          i stuck on the point
                          “You can check if your button works by simply typing python pir.py. Every time u move through the PIR or press the button it will show you several …
                          End the test with “ctrl+c”
                          ”

                          It always print “…” for me.
                          That means that there is a movement all time right?
                          even if I disconnect the GPIO Pin there are all the dots…
                          i Realy cant figure out what i do wrong in this case… i mean it is only copy and paste and i did it the third time right now. also tried the MMM-PIR-Sensor module… not happy with it.

                          i realy dont know what to do now!

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                          • cruunnerrC Offline
                            cruunnerr
                            last edited by cruunnerr

                            Not much time, so here comes just a short think…

                            1. You have two cogs on the pir. Move the time delay completely left or right (so it will just give a very short impulse).

                            2. Set the Shutoff-delay in the script to 5 seconds (just to try)

                            3. Try another GPIO…

                            4. try a pull-up or pull-down resistor like used at thy button-method

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                            • K Offline
                              Kecko @cruunnerr
                              last edited by

                              @cruunnerr oh my god… i love you
                              it was realy just the Time-delay Adjust!!!
                              i turned it completly left and it seems to work now!

                              but i have to say i must work with the command display_power=0 - display_power=1
                              so if the hdmi turns off my display shows for 1 second no signal
                              if the display turns on it shows HDMI1
                              but thats fine… i guess it is a “problem” of the display itself.

                              thank you for the fast and easy response

                              your tutorial is realy great i love it. also a noob can work with it!

                              maybe you should add a line with a tip for the Time-delay Adjust

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                                komodoteler @cruunnerr
                                last edited by

                                @cruunnerr Hello, My PIR works completely fine (with method #6, just turn black) but I also plan to build my mirror as floor mirror and wondering the same as @blebbens

                                I tried your suggestion but unfortunately doesn’t seems to work. the screen is on instantly if motion detected. Any other suggestion?

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                                • M Offline
                                  Magno99900
                                  last edited by

                                  Hey, so I’ve been trying to get this working over the past few days using method 2.2 (pir script) I’ve verified that monitor_on/off.sh works as they should as does pir.py when run from terminal. The problem seems to be that I’m unable to get the script to auto start on boot. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

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                                    komodoteler @Magno99900
                                    last edited by

                                    @magno99900

                                    Make sure you run chmod - chmod +x pir.py

                                    Then add it to startup:

                                    1. run - sudo nano /etc/rc.local
                                    2. Add this (above the “exit 0”): python /home/pi/pir.py &
                                    3. Save

                                    Reboot to test

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                                    • M Offline
                                      Magno99900 @komodoteler
                                      last edited by Magno99900

                                      @komodoteler I’ll try again once I get off work, but i know I did chmod on pir.py and I currently have it in rc.local but I don’t currently have the “&” after it’s entry. When I looked at the first post it says to put it there but doesn’t display it in the code section.

                                      Updated: Added the “&” still didn’t work, so I replaced the pir.py script that I was previously using and all seems to be great now. thanks again for the help.

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                                        Kecko
                                        last edited by Kecko

                                        hey guys,

                                        i got another problem.
                                        the script is working well but the python won’t start with booting my PI.

                                        i don’t know how often i repeated all the steps. I am using the method 2.2 Using PIR-Script.

                                        i also put this line in my rc.local:

                                        • python /home/pi/pir.py &

                                        anyone got an idea what i’m doing wrong?

                                        EDIT:

                                        Sorry I have just read the post of @Magno99900. So you just created a complete new .py script? i will try this later! Thanks so far :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:
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                                        • MarosM Offline
                                          Maros
                                          last edited by Maros

                                          I’ve just connected PIR sensor to my MM as written in step 2.1 Using PIR-Module

                                          everything is connected MM is started but the screen is not turning off.

                                          Can someone help me how can i check if PIR sensor is working and if it’s why the screen is still on ?

                                          i’ve changed settings to

                                          {
                                          module: ‘MMM-PIR-Sensor’,
                                          config: {
                                          powerSavingDelay: 60 // (seconds) how long the monitor will be turned on
                                          }
                                          },

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                                          • MarosM Offline
                                            Maros
                                            last edited by

                                            I found out that PIR sensor is ok.

                                            i’ve created python script from this page ( https://tutorials-raspberrypi.com/connect-and-control-raspberry-pi-motion-detector-pir/ )and found out that i’ve switched Ground and 5V. I’ve corrected them and now when i execute : sudo python pir.py i get
                                            There was a movement!

                                            before there was nothing, so i guess PIR sensor is OK

                                            but it’s still not working to turn off the screen.

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