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    A New Chapter for MagicMirror: The Community Takes the Lead
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    UPDATE: Replaced my PIR-Sensor with a Doppler Microwave Sensor.

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    • lavolp3L Offline
      lavolp3 Module Developer @Fozi
      last edited by

      @Fozi said in Replaced my PIR-Sensor with a Doppler Microwave Sensor.:

      An additional resistor is not necessary, as it goes in high state when motion is detected

      I thought a resistor could reduce the range by limiting the signals coming from the sensor. But I’m a complete failure when it comes to electronics so what do I know…

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      • FoziF Offline
        Fozi Project Sponsor @lavolp3
        last edited by

        @lavolp3 Ah…now I got you.
        There are two options to reduce the sensor range:
        Option 1: The aluminum taped “Magic Box” like described here.
        Option 2: Replacing a resistor on the sensor to reduce the sensor range.

        I haven’t yet tried option2, as I’m waiting for some parts to do it. As soon as I got them I’ll test that option and will give feedback. For the time beeing, I just can make a statement for option 1, which requires no additional resistor.

        Maybe there is also an option 3, a combination of option 1 and 2…we’ll see.

        HowTo: Replace PIR Sensor with a RCWL-0516 Microwave Sensor

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        • cowboysdudeC Offline
          cowboysdude Module Developer @Mykle1
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          @Mykle1 said in Replaced my PIR-Sensor with a Doppler Microwave Sensor.:

          @Fozi

          Excellent description. I like your innovation. I’m guessing this is going to replace the PIR sensor. I think most people have the same feeling as you about the appearance of the PIR. It does distract from the “magic”. Well done! :thumbsup:

          That would be the idea…easier to ‘hide’… the PIR is nice but ugly.

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          • cowboysdudeC Offline
            cowboysdude Module Developer @Fozi
            last edited by

            @Fozi said in Replaced my PIR-Sensor with a Doppler Microwave Sensor.:

            RCWL-0516 microwave sensor

            Thank you so much for this…ordering one so I can get rid of the ugly PIR in my bathroom!!!
            Awesome job!!

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            • FoziF Offline
              Fozi Project Sponsor @cowboysdude
              last edited by

              @cowboysdude Thanks! I’m looking forward to your experiences with the sensor!

              HowTo: Replace PIR Sensor with a RCWL-0516 Microwave Sensor

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              • lavolp3L Offline
                lavolp3 Module Developer @Fozi
                last edited by

                @Fozi
                I’ll try this out hopefully tonight but not with an Aluminium tape but with aluminum foil. Should work as well as far as I can see.

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                • FoziF Offline
                  Fozi Project Sponsor @lavolp3
                  last edited by

                  @lavolp3 yes, should do equally. I had some leftover of the tape and it was more convenient to apply. I found some post from you a few months ago, when you struggled to make the sensor work. I hope you get some better results now.

                  HowTo: Replace PIR Sensor with a RCWL-0516 Microwave Sensor

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                  • cowboysdudeC Offline
                    cowboysdude Module Developer @Fozi
                    last edited by

                    @Fozi Is there a wiring diagram for this? I know where the wires on my pi are and there two wires running to the sensor but where are they connected on the actual sensor?

                    Thanks!

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                    • FoziF Offline
                      Fozi Project Sponsor @cowboysdude
                      last edited by

                      @cowboysdude
                      You only use Vin (5V), Vout and GND. CDS (for applying a photo diode) and 3V3 (delivers 3.3V output) remain unused. For Vout you can use also oher GPIO pins (labeled “Digital I/O” in the 2nd diagram), in case GPIO_4 is already used.

                      The ferrite bead is optional. It is a left over from the PIR sensor I had attached. If you may need one, you can dismantle an old VGA cable and use that one.
                      Here the wireing diagram:

                      0_1575707860693_Bildschirmfoto 2019-12-07 um 09.36.59.png
                      0_1575708199060_Bildschirmfoto 2019-12-07 um 09.42.07.png

                      HowTo: Replace PIR Sensor with a RCWL-0516 Microwave Sensor

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                      • cowboysdudeC Offline
                        cowboysdude Module Developer
                        last edited by cowboysdude

                        Super Awesome yet again!! Thank you! I don’t use the PIR module… I have a Python script I run behind everything. It works very well for me but this will work so nice, and now I can move it behind the glass!

                        Now if I can just remember where I put my ferrite beads… I know I have some … but where LOL

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                        • FoziF Offline
                          Fozi Project Sponsor
                          last edited by Fozi

                          Hi folks,

                          sooner than expected I modified the sensor with a trimmer resistor.
                          For that I also updated my initial post and enhanced the tutorial, where now both options are described. Enjoy and give me your feedback, how that works for you.

                          HowTo: Replace PIR Sensor with a RCWL-0516 Microwave Sensor

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                            sdetweil @Fozi
                            last edited by

                            @Fozi nice update… very clear and helpful

                            Sam

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                            • cowboysdudeC Offline
                              cowboysdude Module Developer
                              last edited by

                              Once again excellent work! I love the trimmer it’s a great idea for those with limited space!
                              For some strange reason I have left a gap at the top of my mirror that fits what I build perfectly!
                              I wanted a bigger mirror so I bought the glass oversized and centered the monitor in it :)

                              This, accidently, left me enough room to fit this in perfectly!

                              So what I did was design a “T” with a whole in it to mount the sensor and install it inside the box.
                              I am a contractor so having aluminum tape was not a hard thing for me to come up with.

                              Thank you @Fozi for this entire project! Allows me to get rid of the ugly PIR sensor outside the mirror and place a sensor behind the scenes but works as intended.

                              So for me option 1 works great! This won’t work for everyone but in my case perfect!
                              [Have NOT installed it in the mirror yet but will today]

                              Here’s the pictures.

                              Box

                              0_1575824339532_20191208_114523.jpg

                              3d PLA Printed ‘T’
                              0_1575824367750_20191208_114535.jpg

                              Fits inside of box
                              0_1575824390662_20191208_114628.jpg

                              Picture of sensor on ‘T’
                              0_1575824407696_20191208_114553.jpg

                              Once again, Thank you @Fozi !!!

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                              • Mykle1M Offline
                                Mykle1 Project Sponsor Module Developer @Fozi
                                last edited by Mykle1

                                @Fozi said in UPDATE: Replaced my PIR-Sensor with a Doppler Microwave Sensor.:

                                sooner than expected I modified the sensor with a trimmer resistor.
                                For that I also updated my initial post and enhanced the tutorial, where now both options are described.

                                Dude, (can I call you dude?) although I don’t use a sensor (I have a cam on my first mirror w/Pi) I appreciate what you’ve done here. I’ll say it again (in different words), I think this is the death knell of the PIR sensor. So, thanks. :thumbsup:

                                Peace!

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                                • FoziF Offline
                                  Fozi Project Sponsor @cowboysdude
                                  last edited by

                                  @cowboysdude I‘m totally happy that I cold help and to receive so positive feedback! I love it when a plan works!😁 Thanks!
                                  This T-shaped holder, is it 3D-printed or an off-the-shelf available part? It‘s totally cool!

                                  HowTo: Replace PIR Sensor with a RCWL-0516 Microwave Sensor

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                                  • FoziF Offline
                                    Fozi Project Sponsor @Mykle1
                                    last edited by

                                    @Mykle1 said

                                    Dude, (can I call you dude?) although I don’t use a sensor (I have a cam on my first mirror w/Pi) I appreciate what you’ve done here. I’ll say it again (in different words), I think this is the death knell of the PIR sensor. So, thanks. :thumbsup:

                                    Sure, call me Dude, if you like😁

                                    Let‘s get the warts outta here!🤣 and thanks for the overwhelming feedback!

                                    HowTo: Replace PIR Sensor with a RCWL-0516 Microwave Sensor

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                                    • cowboysdudeC Offline
                                      cowboysdude Module Developer
                                      last edited by cowboysdude

                                      Ok so here’s my final and it’s working perfectly! I tried it in various spots.

                                      Thanks to @Fozi again…now there’s a very complete forum topic that anyone can follow!!

                                      I added 2 additional layers of aluminum tape… there are no untaped spaces on the box anywhere… then moved it to the back of the cabinet and now you have to walk up to it to make it come on… PERFECT!! :)

                                      I tried behind the glass… too sensitive
                                      I tried taped to the back of the monitor … too sensitive.
                                      Moved to the back of the cabinet which makes it about 4" away from the glass… BINGO!!

                                      [PS… don’t mind my ugly wiring LOL]

                                      0_1575835456018_rsz_final.jpg

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                                      • FoziF Offline
                                        Fozi Project Sponsor @cowboysdude
                                        last edited by

                                        @cowboysdude Great News, excellent!👍🏻

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                                        • lavolp3L Offline
                                          lavolp3 Module Developer @cowboysdude
                                          last edited by

                                          @cowboysdude
                                          am I seeing it right that also the side of the case looking at you is aluminium taped?
                                          So the whole case is taped in your case?

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                                          • lavolp3L Offline
                                            lavolp3 Module Developer
                                            last edited by

                                            @cowboysdude @Fozi Guys, which module are you using for the recognition?
                                            I can’t get neither MMM-PIR-Sensor nor MMM-PIR to work currently. Both have the same problem with epoll which is installed via the node module “onoff”, if I see correctly.
                                            What are you using?
                                            THe mirror won’t load with any of the modules activated giving the error

                                             The module '/home/pi/MagicMirror/modules/MMM-PIR/node_modules/onoff/node_modules/epoll/build/Release/epoll.node'
                                            was compiled against a different Node.js version using
                                            NODE_MODULE_VERSION 67. This version of Node.js requires
                                            NODE_MODULE_VERSION 64. Please try re-compiling or re-installing
                                            the module (for instance, using `npm rebuild` or `npm install`).
                                            

                                            @cowboysdude I remember you’re using your own script?
                                            @Fozi you?

                                            node v 11.4.0
                                            npm v 6.13.0

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