Read the statement by Michael Teeuw here.
MM and UBUNTU. Made for each other.
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@barnosch said in MM and UBUNTU. Made for each other.:
Habe you compared the Laptops Power consumption with the raspberries? ;)
For sure it runs way better, but if you use just normal stuff, it is absolute not necessary imho.
Most of us use the mirror on the wall, without tons of cables (execpt Power) viewable. With a Laptop you have to be more tricky.You’re not just running a raspberry. You’re also powering a display. I have not compared but I am sure there is a nominal difference. If there is a difference, the performance boost outweighs the cost difference.
Normal stuff? There are single modules that the Pi struggles with. I don’t accept stuttering transitions, RAM inadequacies, system overload and heat issues just to use a Pi.
I don’t know how you speak for “most of us”, but ok. Disassemble the laptop. Fits behind mirror as easily as a Pi. Only the power cord showing. How is this different from a Pi mirror? It’s not.
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Raspberry pi is fine to mount a prototype, but with MM and Kalliope shows freezing moments …
On the laptop: everything is easy and the answer is immediate.
My next MM with Kalliope (voice) will be in a mini PC. More expensive, yes, but it compensates the normal fluency that these app requires -
@Mykle1 How do you did the wake up with a webcam?
Let’s say a notebook has always an integrated webcam on top of the display. How do you wake the screen up like a PIR-Sensor does? -
How do you wake the screen up like a PIR-Sensor does?
I use voice commands with Hello-Lucy to put my displays to sleep and to wake them up. I use this on my Pi mirror. https://github.com/alexyak/motiondetector
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@Mykle1 Using old laptops makes sense to me too. But i do have one question; how do you manage heat and fan noise? I’m concerned that an old laptop gets hotter than a Pi behind a mirror and if its using a HDD and has a fan it must either get noisy or hot (if you disconnect the fan)
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I have not found heat to be an issue at all. In fact, by removing the motherboard from the case, the temps are actually lower, even when placed behind a mirror. As long as the construction of the mirror is well ventilated, I don’t think that would ever be an issue.
I do not remove the fan. I’ve found that in a normal environment, (people, tv, ambient noises, etc…) the fan noise isn’t even noticeable. Only when the house, or room, is completely silent is the fan audible. For me, this is not an issue when a mobo mirror outperforms any Pi mirror, hands down.
Note: There are silent fans these days but I have never used them with a mirror. I’ve never felt the need to but that is certainly an option for anyone.
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@mykle1 said in MM and UBUNTU. Made for each other.:
I have not found heat to be an issue at all. In fact, by removing the motherboard from the case, the temps are actually lower, even when placed behind a mirror. As long as the construction of the mirror is well ventilated, I don’t think that would ever be an issue.
I do not remove the fan. I’ve found that in a normal environment, (people, tv, ambient noises, etc…) the fan noise isn’t even noticeable. Only when the house, or room, is completely silent is the fan audible. For me, this is not an issue when a mobo mirror outperforms any Pi mirror, hands down.
Note: There are silent fans these days but I have never used them with a mirror. I’ve never felt the need to but that is certainly an option for anyone.
Nice to know! Got a old laptop I’m gonna try it with then! Using MMM-pages and MMM-voice, so a more powerful CPU would be preferred.
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@mdhenriksen said in MM and UBUNTU. Made for each other.:
Using MMM-pages and MMM-voice, so a more powerful CPU would be preferred.
That is largely the reason I moved away from the Pi. (I still have my first Pi mirror). I’ve been using MMM-voice and Hello-Lucy for about a year now and I could not be more pleased with the results and the performance.
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I did learn the hard way that a miniPC running an Intel Atom processor and integrated graphics is not suitable for Ubuntu and therefore the MagicMirror. The IGP does not have drivers in Ubuntu 14, 16, nor 18 and uses most of its power to render the desktop.
I might put the server version on it and turn it into a gateway or something.
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@bhepler said in MM and UBUNTU. Made for each other.:
Intel Atom processor and integrated graphics is not suitable for Ubuntu and therefore the MagicMirror.
The only two laptops that I’ve had trouble with are both ThinkPads. I struggled with them and eventually gave up.
However, I did have success with a little piece of $h1t with specs similar to what you mentioned.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZ8t3UoKYu0
Total cost = $11
Specs:
ASUS Eee PC
Intel Atom CPU N570 @ 1.66GHz x 4
2GB of RAM
Intel Pineview M Graphics
Display 8.5" width by 5.25" height
250GB HD
Integrated microphone
Built-in WiFi
VGA port (for external monitor)$11 on craigslist
64-bit Ubuntu 14.04 LTS
MagicMirror v2.1.3Modules:
MMM-Advice
AlarmClock
calendar
clock
compliments
Cocktails
EARTH
EasyBack
Events
FMI (Find My iPhone)
ImageSlideshow
Lunartic
newsfeed
NOAA3
PC-Stats
voice w/ Hello-Lucy
WunderGround
