@sdetweil I went to the Github Issue to see what you wrote and I don’t see anything relating to to how to retrieve an older version of the repository. All my Googling I had found how each version has tag associated with it but I can’t find in the issue stream anywhere.

@sdetweil I assume it is on you all to resolve MM’s conflict with the newest version of Electron?
I could see that going both ways. If new version of Electron broke EVERYONE’s application that uses Electron is different than if it only breaks one or two applications.

@sdetweil Thank you.

I’ve piddled around with computers since THE computer was a Tandy Something Something I bought at a Radio Shack when they and hardware focused mom & pop computer stores were the only way to buy/build a NOT $7,000.00 IBM. There was an EGG Computer store as big as a Best Buy big box store in Charlotte, NC I used to go to and drool at all the hardware.

Been several multi-year gaps in there for sure but I can always rely on computers to tax my brain. Just like this.

I appreciate your help and patience.

@sdetweil Can you tell me how to easily capture/install the prior 2.20.0 version ether direct to the Pi I want to install MM on. I have two upcoming MM projects and while the one Pi is ready, it is going to be a simple build as far as MM’s go so will knock it out pretty quickly.

I have successfully installed that earlier version twice but still way more hunting and pecking than is desireable. Plus it would be good to know more generally.

Is sudo rm -r MagicMirror the best way to remove the problematic 2.23.0version? That is what I have been doing and since I have only just installed MM and no modules it seemed like that would do what I needed.

@sdetweil I’m calling it a wrap for today but is there a way to make the developer tools to open that is not “open developer tools”?

I did something yesterday and that launched but when you move the mouse around it is like it is behind the MM window. If it wasn’t doing that you could right click page and bring that up up.

Reason I ask is I did see some Electron errors yesterday but I’ve seen them in past so I just ignored.

@sdetweil Hit the nail on the head.
These things more oriented to the do-it-yourselfer community.
I was paying Dakboard and it was always “on the next release”. I’m thinking “Dude, I’m paying you. Chop Chop. Get a move on.”
Here, I bust it, I have to sort it out myself but large community of people to help answer my questions.

@sdetweil You won’t get any argument out of me on that score.
As I said, glad to help if I can just as long as you tell me what to do.

@sdetweil I took two identical Pi 4B’s, formatted them intalled 64 bit PI OS on both.
Then installed MM 2.22.0 on one and 2.23.0 on the other.
No VNC or SSH, start to finish.

2.22.0 I hit ALT (only) and the expected toolbar with VIEW then Toggle Full Screen and the Open Developer Tools come up as I am accustomed to.

2.23.0 exhibits that same unexpected behavior that started us down this road.

The whole ALT+F11 is WAY WAY beyond me but it does shrink the size of the MM overlay. Unfortunately it does not give you Open Developer Tools so that is a problem.

Beyond that, I am clueless. Why 2.22.0 works as desired and 2.23.0 doesn’t is way out beyond my level of knowledge.

I never got to the Chromium stuff you described but more than happy to run that down on the Pi with 2.23.0 on it.
Once I saw that 2.22.0 install give me what I wanted I was going see if I could repeat that.

@wfsaxton Good luck.
IMO, Dak board, as a user for probably 9 months, is that it is garbage.
It was garbage because they didn’t do all the customer service stuff you commit to with a retail product.
My opinion, and you know what they say about opinions, is the 3 or 4 people that seemed to be running it when I was a subscriber saw MM and said “We can make these for money.” but found out there’s a lot more to it when you sign up to make, sell, warranty, deal with customers and all that touchy-feely stuff.
Maybe make the bad to the bone calendar, or make a dozen modules to show everyone, then ask.
I’m not sure but I suspect a lot of the folks making the modules and manage back end stuff have day jobs.
People like me with my questions make them go prematurely grey.

@sdetweil It’s alive.