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    • cowboysdudeC Offline
      cowboysdude Module Developer
      last edited by cowboysdude

      Well here’s step 1 for my big mirror… I wanted something stronger then a PI so here is my mini-itx in its new home… Cooling is NOT an issue… it’s about 13" square and about 3 inches tall :) Easy to put out of the way … NOW to build a frame for the ‘display’… Coming soon!

      0_1504138490290_IMG_2879.png

      HERE is how it all stays cool…this fan is totally SILENT… LOVE IT!
      https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835220067

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      • Mykle1M Offline
        Mykle1 Project Sponsor Module Developer @cowboysdude
        last edited by

        @cowboysdude said in stronger Raspberry Pi 3 Alternatives:

        Easy to put out of the way … NOW to build a frame for the ‘display’

        Great idea! Now hurry the hell up with the frame! :^)

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        • cowboysdudeC Offline
          cowboysdude Module Developer @Mykle1
          last edited by

          @Mykle1 I’m working on it COMING SOON

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            j.e.f.f Project Sponsor Module Developer @cowboysdude
            last edited by

            @cowboysdude is the idea that the mini atx sits beside the mirror as opposed to being built? Say on a console table with just an HDMI cable running to the screen?

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            • cowboysdudeC Offline
              cowboysdude Module Developer @j.e.f.f
              last edited by

              @j.e.f.f No it will be underneath as I’m building into a type of desk/cabinet

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              • SnilleS Offline
                Snille Module Developer
                last edited by Snille

                All, I have got the Libre Computer now. Trying my best to get the mirror up. Ran in to a small hitch. There is no chromedriver for arm64 yet. They are working on it and there is a PR but it has not yet gone completely through it seems. I’ll see if I can figure it out some how anyway. :)

                I’ll come back to this thread as soon as I gotten MM up and running.

                If you cant find it, make it and share it!
                Modules: MMM-homeassistant-sensors, MMM-Modulebar, MMM-Profilepicture, MMM-Videoplayer

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                  stacywebb @Snille
                  last edited by

                  @Snille
                  I’ve gotten it working a Pine Rock64 (arm64 also).

                  Downloaded electron-v1.7.5-linux-arm64.zip listed under electron’s PR

                  One thing to note: when downloading from the link, the site’s cert has expired.

                  From terminal:

                  // Since the cert for the site has expired (but is safe)
                  
                  wget --no-check-certificate https://www.hamidx9.ir/dl/electron_arm64/electron-v1.7.5-linux-arm64.zip
                  
                  // Important make sure to unzip to your electron path
                  
                  unzip electron-v1.7.5-linux-arm64.zip ~/MagicMirror/node_modules/electron/dist/
                  
                  

                  Once done just started as usual (npm start).

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                  • SnilleS Offline
                    Snille Module Developer @stacywebb
                    last edited by

                    @stacywebb Thank you! I’ll try it out as soon as I got some time. Have you compared with a Pi3?

                    If you cant find it, make it and share it!
                    Modules: MMM-homeassistant-sensors, MMM-Modulebar, MMM-Profilepicture, MMM-Videoplayer

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                      stacywebb @Snille
                      last edited by

                      @Snille

                      I haven’t done any benchmarking as of yet. Once I do, I’ll post the results.

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                      • Mykle1M Offline
                        Mykle1 Project Sponsor Module Developer @stacywebb
                        last edited by

                        @stacywebb said in stronger Raspberry Pi 3 Alternatives:

                        I haven’t done any benchmarking as of yet. Once I do, I’ll post the results.

                        If you could do some comparisons using nmon between a Pi3 and the Rock64 I’d really be interested in the results, as they pertain to this topic.
                        https://forum.magicmirror.builders/topic/4684/electron-cpu-usage

                        Otherwise, I’m looking forward to your results on the Rock64.

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                        • cruunnerrC Offline
                          cruunnerr
                          last edited by cruunnerr

                          @Mykle1

                          https://youtu.be/FjbzKfeHB_8?t=8m10s

                          As i understood, u were able to use GPIO commands the same way u do on a raspberry. Seems to be a nice option

                          Benchmarks at 08:10

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                          • Mykle1M Offline
                            Mykle1 Project Sponsor Module Developer @cruunnerr
                            last edited by

                            @cruunnerr

                            No WiFi? NFW!

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                              ninjabreadman @Mykle1
                              last edited by

                              @Mykle1 The b/g/n adapter is a further $7, and will also give you an antenna for better connectivity. The more robust (and likely excessive) b/g/n/ac dual-antenna is $22.

                              Has anyone tried running MM on an Intel Compute Stick? I’m not normally a fan, but it seems it would suit the form factor and be easily placed behind a mirror, and has more fulsome specs to accommodate advanced modules, media streaming, etc.

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                              Check out the detailed walkthroughs on install, config, modules, etc.

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                              • Mykle1M Offline
                                Mykle1 Project Sponsor Module Developer @ninjabreadman
                                last edited by

                                @ninjabreadman

                                No, but I’ve used, and am using, old laptop boards (and one netbook) with ubuntu. They can be gotten on the cheap and come with everything you need. :-)

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                                • cruunnerrC Offline
                                  cruunnerr
                                  last edited by

                                  Well, i need to say that especially for me, the ability to use GPIOs is important. Unfortunately the power of the raspi’s & co is not as good as x86 systems.

                                  Does anyone know if it would be possible to use MagicMirror on a x86 system and uses external GPIOs? I installed an MM instance on a virtual machine running Linux. When i add a module which uses GPIOs i get errors. Is there a possibility (maybe with server-client)

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                                  • emloweE Offline
                                    emlowe Module Developer
                                    last edited by

                                    You mean something like this:

                                    https://www.adafruit.com/product/2264

                                    I just did a google for “USB GPIO breakout board”

                                    -Earle

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                                    • cruunnerrC Offline
                                      cruunnerr
                                      last edited by cruunnerr

                                      @emlowe said in stronger Raspberry Pi 3 Alternatives:

                                      https://www.adafruit.com/product/2264

                                      do you think its just that simple? that would be great.
                                      The question is, if the program code or the configuration will be the same as on a RPi. Or are u need to do some complicated hacks to use the board with MM?

                                      edit:
                                      okay… i searched now, too.

                                      Found this:

                                      https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/gpio-expander/

                                      what do u guys think about that?

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                                      • emloweE Offline
                                        emlowe Module Developer
                                        last edited by

                                        Well, adafruit has python sample code. You likely need the node FT232H module to use it from JS.

                                        https://www.npmjs.com/package/FT232H

                                        Does it actually work - I have no idea - that board is also apparently out of stock :-)

                                        Sample python code below

                                        # Import standard Python time library.
                                        import time
                                        
                                        # Import GPIO and FT232H modules.
                                        import Adafruit_GPIO as GPIO
                                        import Adafruit_GPIO.FT232H as FT232H
                                        
                                        # Temporarily disable the built-in FTDI serial driver on Mac & Linux platforms.
                                        FT232H.use_FT232H()
                                        
                                        # Create an FT232H object that grabs the first available FT232H device found.
                                        ft232h = FT232H.FT232H()
                                        
                                        # Configure digital inputs and outputs using the setup function.
                                        # Note that pin numbers 0 to 15 map to pins D0 to D7 then C0 to C7 on the board.
                                        ft232h.setup(7, GPIO.IN)   # Make pin D7 a digital input.
                                        ft232h.setup(8, GPIO.OUT)  # Make pin C0 a digital output.
                                        
                                        # Loop turning the LED on and off and reading the input state.
                                        print 'Press Ctrl-C to quit.'
                                        while True:
                                        	# Set pin C0 to a high level so the LED turns on.
                                        	ft232h.output(8, GPIO.HIGH)
                                        	# Sleep for 1 second.
                                        	time.sleep(1)
                                        	# Set pin C0 to a low level so the LED turns off.
                                        	ft232h.output(8, GPIO.LOW)
                                        	# Sleep for 1 second.
                                        	time.sleep(1)
                                        	# Read the input on pin D7 and print out if it's high or low.
                                        	level = ft232h.input(7)
                                        	if level == GPIO.LOW:
                                        		print 'Pin D7 is LOW!'
                                        	else:
                                        		print 'Pin D7 is HIGH!'
                                        
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                                        • Mykle1M Offline
                                          Mykle1 Project Sponsor Module Developer @cruunnerr
                                          last edited by

                                          @cruunnerr said in stronger Raspberry Pi 3 Alternatives:

                                          Does anyone know if it would be possible to use MagicMirror on a x86 system and uses external GPIOs?

                                          Well, it’s certainly possible to run MM on a x86 system. I haven’t a clue about external GPIO usage but it looks promising. For now, I use my mirror for some things and my Alexa for everything else.

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