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    Henrik @djsunrise19
    last edited by Feb 19, 2018, 7:17 PM

    @djsunrise19 Maybe a bit late, but are you sure the performance issues were not caused by the incompatible Electron version? That seems to have been fixed in the latest MM (by downgrading Electron).

    Anyway, MMM-voice should work, but it’ll probably be a lot of hassle to get it going!

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      djsunrise19 @Henrik
      last edited by Feb 19, 2018, 7:27 PM

      @Henrik No, I tried a lot of electron versions, a lot of raspberries, ATB, odroids. I created that electron topic :-D. I like it smooth, none of them was. All in all I have to say, that electron seems to be the problem. The renderer / the performance is too bad. Within chrome only, the website runs super smooth. With electron its a huge difference. Even under windows (8GB RAM, G4600 CPU), electron doesn’t perform like chrome does. But it’s okay, and expensive, :-D. MagicMirror V1 was a website only. Way better than V2 with the electron framework (only the performance aspect).

      Perhaps @Mykle1 has an idea for MMM-voice under windows?

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        Mykle1 Project Sponsor Module Developer @djsunrise19
        last edited by Feb 19, 2018, 8:51 PM

        @djsunrise19 said in Complete Walkthrough - Install MagicMirror on a PC - Windows 7/10:

        Perhaps @Mykle1 has an idea for MMM-voice under windows?

        The problem with MMM-voice under windows is dependencies. The installer script will not work under Windows, only Raspbian or linux. So, unless you can install the dependencies independent of the installer, you’re out of luck. I don’t even know if the dependencies are available for Windows. I never really tried to find out. Let me know if you do.

        Now that you are running on a mini-itx board, you do have some options. You could make it a dual boot machine, which is fairly simple. One side Windows, one side ubuntu. Then you can run MMM-voice with Hello-Lucy like a champion.

        Create a working config
        How to add modules

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          djsunrise19 @Mykle1
          last edited by djsunrise19 Feb 20, 2018, 11:51 AM Feb 20, 2018, 11:50 AM

          @Mykle1 Thank you! First I installed ubuntu (and ubuntu mate) on that system. But there were some graphic-issues (f.e. marquee-fx in display-rotate mode looks very awful) and my microphone doesn’t work. I checked 4 or 5 of them. I thought, MMM-voice works with windows as well.

          After that I decided to go with windows. It works pretty well. More performant than ubuntu. There is only one problem: Each 10min (or something like that) there are very much git processes within the electron process (cpu usage is 70% for a few seconds, windows antivirus checks something too; MM2 lags a little bit). Don’t know why. Do you have the same with your windows environment?

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            Mykle1 Project Sponsor Module Developer @djsunrise19
            last edited by Mykle1 Feb 20, 2018, 1:33 PM Feb 20, 2018, 1:08 PM

            @djsunrise19

            I am no longer running MM on Windows. It doesn’t make sense to me. I’ve become a huge fan of ubuntu. I would recommend finding the version that works best for you. It takes a little time but it’s worth it. For me, ubuntu 16.04 is rock solid and works on every machine I’ve installed it on. I had some trouble with earlier and later versions.

            IMHO, for MM, ubuntu is the way to go. You might have some trouble initially but once you find the right combination you’ll be happy with it. And hey, I think you can rotate the screen from inside ubuntu preferences. I have 2 microphones. One usb and one 3.5mm jack version. Both work with no issue under ubuntu. Even the laptops I use with ubuntu have no issue with the integrated microphones.

            Create a working config
            How to add modules

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              djsunrise19 @Mykle1
              last edited by Feb 20, 2018, 2:43 PM

              @Mykle1 I tested two Mainboards, because ubuntu doesn’t recognize the realtek chips. Also I rotated the screen within the ubuntu options. But, thanks for your input. Who knows, if I’ll switch again ;).

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                Mykle1 Project Sponsor Module Developer @djsunrise19
                last edited by Feb 20, 2018, 8:58 PM

                @djsunrise19 said in Complete Walkthrough - Install MagicMirror on a PC - Windows 7/10:

                because ubuntu doesn’t recognize the realtek chips

                I did not know that. Are you choosing "install 3rd party drivers during installation? This is what I do know. I’ve installed ubuntu 16.04 on a 32 bit MacBook (2006), a Compaq Presario CQ57 laptop, a Dell 1505 laptop, an HP Pavilion a6130n desktop and an HPE i7 Quad core desktop. All are problem free. All are running MMM-voice and Hello-Lucy. All drivers were installed automatically with ubuntu. All microphones work, all sound out works, all bluetooth works. I didn’t do anything special. I just installed and it works.

                I’ll ask my friend who is running an mini itx board if he has any insight on this. He is running ubuntu and Hello-Lucy without a hitch.

                Create a working config
                How to add modules

                D 1 Reply Last reply Feb 21, 2018, 8:34 AM Reply Quote 0
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                  djsunrise19 @Mykle1
                  last edited by Feb 21, 2018, 8:34 AM

                  @Mykle1 A good point. I didn’t choose that 3rd party option. Perhaps there are some better graphic drivers, too. I think I’ll create a windows backup and give ubuntu a 3rd chance :-D. Using ubuntu mate shouldn’t be a problem? I like that interface a little bit more. If it doesn’t work again, I’ll make the windows recovery and try to tweak that.

                  Another option for voice would be an alexa skill an module. So I can use alexa for the input trigger.

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                    Mykle1 Project Sponsor Module Developer @djsunrise19
                    last edited by Feb 21, 2018, 12:13 PM

                    @djsunrise19 said in Complete Walkthrough - Install MagicMirror on a PC - Windows 7/10:

                    I think I’ll create a windows backup and give ubuntu a 3rd chance :-D. Using ubuntu mate shouldn’t be a problem? I like that interface a little bit more

                    Personally, I wouldn’t care which version name or number, as long as it’s stable and MM resides there happily.

                    Another option for voice would be an alexa skill an module. So I can use alexa for the input trigger.

                    Cool. Keep me posted.

                    Create a working config
                    How to add modules

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                      lavolp3 Module Developer
                      last edited by Feb 21, 2018, 8:34 PM

                      Thanks Mykle1 for this great tutorial. You are the man!
                      Working great on Win 10 Pro 64 bit

                      How to troubleshoot modules
                      MMM-soccer v2, MMM-AVStock

                      M 1 Reply Last reply Feb 22, 2018, 1:06 AM Reply Quote 1
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