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A New Chapter for MagicMirror: The Community Takes the Lead
Read the statement by Michael Teeuw here.

Considering taking donations to support the MagicMirror project. Interested in your thoughts!

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    ganget
    last edited by ganget Jan 31, 2019, 12:48 PM Jan 31, 2019, 12:46 PM

    @michmich I’n my opinion you’re doing this the right way! You are actively initiating a discussion about this topic and keeping it transparant.

    Keeping donating voluntarily and optional will likely assure that people can enjoy working on there Magic Mirror as a hobby. The positive effect of accepting donations in my opinion is that it can boost the project in a good way by getting more resources available for it. Which enables more growth for the project and people involved.

    The idea of companies supporting is very nice, The only potential loss for these future relationships is that it would be a nightmare if they get the ability to hijack and/or steal the project or influence it too much.

    Looking forward to the reactions on this topic.:slightly_smiling_face:

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      michael24h
      last edited by Jan 31, 2019, 2:57 PM

      I am willing to donate as long as it remains voluntary.
      paypal will be prishate as payment method

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        swvalenti Project Sponsor
        last edited by Jan 31, 2019, 3:00 PM

        Would absolutely donate, time is money in my book.

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          vinp Module Developer
          last edited by Jan 31, 2019, 6:52 PM

          I use patreon for another techy thing that I like to support. Its neat because you can set goals and once you reach the goals, you can set higher and better ones. I’m not sure if you can do a one-time donation with them. Otherwise Paypal would be my votes.

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            Arjan Project Sponsor
            last edited by Jan 31, 2019, 7:03 PM

            MagicMirror is taking a prominant place in our household to keep the overview.
            I’m willing to pay fot this product. I always like the once a year donation via PayPal. Send me after a year a reminder for the next donation. Maybe you can give the poeple who donate something extra.
            For example a extra feature or a notation next to their name that they post something that they are a donor can be a extra motivation to donate.

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              lamachine
              last edited by Feb 1, 2019, 12:28 AM

              Donations are definitely reasonable, and I prefer PayPal for one time, or patreon for on-going. I have gotten some great support in the short time I have used this forum, and want it to continue.

              Of note for revenue streams: I think most people on here are at least linux/pi competent and (like me) have an add blocker. White-listing is a PITA, so I don’t tend to frequent sites that nag me about it.

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                cowboysdude Module Developer
                last edited by Feb 1, 2019, 3:08 AM

                Not that you’ll consider this as you don’t currently even answer anything I’ve ever written or asked but here’s an idea…

                How about a section within the forum where users can go to get one on one individual help in exchange for a donation. I would have NO problem donating to get extra help on something that I’m stuck on. I don’t mean for basics such as config help and such.

                Perhaps someone wants help to modify a module for their particular needs…something more along that lines… BUT donations to continue operations would never be a bad idea!

                Great project and asking for help is well worth it.

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                  sdetweil @cowboysdude
                  last edited by Feb 1, 2019, 3:17 AM

                  @cowboysdude said in Considering taking donations to support the MagicMirror project. Interested in your thoughts!:

                  Perhaps someone wants help to modify a module for their particular needs

                  but most of the modules are not written or maintained by Mich.
                  I would not ask for payment to help someone modify my modules. or theirs or anything else…

                  Operations, i got… whats the budget shortfall that we need to make up?

                  Sam

                  How to add modules

                  learning how to use browser developers window for css changes

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                    rts58
                    last edited by Feb 1, 2019, 4:43 AM

                    I’m quite new and have enjoyed this forum, but don’t know how long I’ll be hanging around. It looks to me like those that have posted above me are already some of your greatest contributors - with their time, skills and help. I also don’t know much about ad revenues or the amount of traffic your forum is getting. I would suspect though, that you will be better off getting some corporate sponsorship and allowing some non-intrusive ads. I do run an adblocker but it is simple enough to require white listing to view content. I don’t mind the ads if they are relevant and not obnoxious. I’m a paypal fan myself.

                    And thanks for what you have built over the last 5 years, it is truly wonderful.

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                      MichMich Admin @cowboysdude
                      last edited by Feb 1, 2019, 1:37 PM

                      @cowboysdude said:

                      How about a section within the forum where users can go to get one on one individual help in exchange for a donation.

                      The problem with this idea is that individual support is very time consuming. Essentially you are hiring me on an hourly basis to give support. This would only work I I would charge my hourly development fee, which for a project like this probably won’t work.

                      Perhaps someone wants help to modify a module for their particular needs…something more along that lines… BUT donations to continue operations would never be a bad idea!

                      As others have said I only maintain the core and the default modules. Most modules a third party, so I won’t be able to give support on those anyway.

                      Thanks for your suggestions though! Good to know what people are looking for.

                      @rts58 said:

                      I would suspect though, that you will be better off getting some corporate sponsorship and allowing some non-intrusive ads.

                      If I limit the support to one company, this might give users the idea it’s owned by a company or that the company will have some influence on the project. I think it’s important that the project will be community supported, not company supported. That being said: I probably will allow companies to be become some sort of “platinum sponsor” with in return a logo on the project page.

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