MM and UBUNTU. Made for each other.


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    @mdhenriksen

    I have not found heat to be an issue at all. In fact, by removing the motherboard from the case, the temps are actually lower, even when placed behind a mirror. As long as the construction of the mirror is well ventilated, I don’t think that would ever be an issue.

    I do not remove the fan. I’ve found that in a normal environment, (people, tv, ambient noises, etc…) the fan noise isn’t even noticeable. Only when the house, or room, is completely silent is the fan audible. For me, this is not an issue when a mobo mirror outperforms any Pi mirror, hands down.

    Note: There are silent fans these days but I have never used them with a mirror. I’ve never felt the need to but that is certainly an option for anyone.



  • @mykle1 said in MM and UBUNTU. Made for each other.:

    @mdhenriksen

    I have not found heat to be an issue at all. In fact, by removing the motherboard from the case, the temps are actually lower, even when placed behind a mirror. As long as the construction of the mirror is well ventilated, I don’t think that would ever be an issue.

    I do not remove the fan. I’ve found that in a normal environment, (people, tv, ambient noises, etc…) the fan noise isn’t even noticeable. Only when the house, or room, is completely silent is the fan audible. For me, this is not an issue when a mobo mirror outperforms any Pi mirror, hands down.

    Note: There are silent fans these days but I have never used them with a mirror. I’ve never felt the need to but that is certainly an option for anyone.

    Nice to know! Got a old laptop I’m gonna try it with then! Using MMM-pages and MMM-voice, so a more powerful CPU would be preferred.


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    @mdhenriksen said in MM and UBUNTU. Made for each other.:

    Using MMM-pages and MMM-voice, so a more powerful CPU would be preferred.

    That is largely the reason I moved away from the Pi. (I still have my first Pi mirror). I’ve been using MMM-voice and Hello-Lucy for about a year now and I could not be more pleased with the results and the performance.


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    I did learn the hard way that a miniPC running an Intel Atom processor and integrated graphics is not suitable for Ubuntu and therefore the MagicMirror. The IGP does not have drivers in Ubuntu 14, 16, nor 18 and uses most of its power to render the desktop.

    I might put the server version on it and turn it into a gateway or something.


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    @bhepler said in MM and UBUNTU. Made for each other.:

    Intel Atom processor and integrated graphics is not suitable for Ubuntu and therefore the MagicMirror.

    The only two laptops that I’ve had trouble with are both ThinkPads. I struggled with them and eventually gave up.

    However, I did have success with a little piece of $h1t with specs similar to what you mentioned.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZ8t3UoKYu0

    Total cost = $11

    Specs:

    ASUS Eee PC
    Intel Atom CPU N570 @ 1.66GHz x 4
    2GB of RAM
    Intel Pineview M Graphics
    Display 8.5" width by 5.25" height
    250GB HD
    Integrated microphone
    Built-in WiFi
    VGA port (for external monitor)

    $11 on craigslist

    64-bit Ubuntu 14.04 LTS
    MagicMirror v2.1.3

    Modules:

    MMM-Advice
    AlarmClock
    calendar
    clock
    compliments
    Cocktails
    EARTH
    EasyBack
    Events
    FMI (Find My iPhone)
    ImageSlideshow
    Lunartic
    newsfeed
    NOAA3
    PC-Stats
    voice w/ Hello-Lucy
    WunderGround



  • I also have had no trouble finding them on eBay
    and Craigslist for less than the price of a Pi3.


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    @mykle1 - Sigh. I suppose I can try again. Did you have to do any fiddling to get the OS to use a graphics driver?


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    @bhepler said in MM and UBUNTU. Made for each other.:

    Sigh. I suppose I can try again. Did you have to do any fiddling to get the OS to use a graphics driver?

    No sir. I did a standard install of ubuntu 16.04LTS (I only use this version. I tried 18.xx and had trouble) During the setup of the installation there is a click box for “use third party drivers” or something to that effect. I always click (enable) that option. I don’t know if it’s worth mentioning but I always use a wired internet connection during installation. It’s just faster that way as it updates everything.

    Let me know how you make out. 👍


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    Recommendation Update

    Actually, this is more of a recommendation confirmation. While you can use ubuntu 18.xx and MM together, I don’t recommend it. I just did a clean install of ubuntu 18.04. Newest stable node and npm. MM v2.6.0. Yes, it runs MM but I don’t see any benefit to using ubuntu 18.xx over 16.04 LTS. I don’t like the changes to the UI in 18.xx and I really don’t like dealing with all the vulnerabilities.

    Ubuntu 16.04 LTS has a more intuitive UI (IMHO) and there are NO vulnreablilities to deal with. NONE!

    So, for the time being, I’m staying with Ubuntu 16.04 LTS. It’s trouble free and MM loves it, too.

    I did a test install of Ubuntu 18.04 on a machine I found in someone’s trash. That’s when the vulnerabilities reminded me of why I don’t like 18.xx. Look at the specs. One man’s trash is another man’s treasure.

    0_1553376079773_GarbagePC.png



  • not gonna lie, i actually have a i5 mini pc laying around and have been fiddling with the pis for weeks now trying to get everything dialed in and your post got me a little pumped to be able to use this pc i got.

    i got ubuntu installed no problem…

    i know NOTHING about it so i couldnt even get past how to install the wireless adapter lol…

    so im scrapping this and going back to install raspbian on the pc and will try it at that point.