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    A New Chapter for MagicMirror: The Community Takes the Lead
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    UPDATE: Replaced my PIR-Sensor with a Doppler Microwave Sensor.

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    • cowboysdudeC Offline
      cowboysdude Module Developer
      last edited by cowboysdude

      Super Awesome yet again!! Thank you! I don’t use the PIR module… I have a Python script I run behind everything. It works very well for me but this will work so nice, and now I can move it behind the glass!

      Now if I can just remember where I put my ferrite beads… I know I have some … but where LOL

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      • FoziF Offline
        Fozi Project Sponsor
        last edited by Fozi

        Hi folks,

        sooner than expected I modified the sensor with a trimmer resistor.
        For that I also updated my initial post and enhanced the tutorial, where now both options are described. Enjoy and give me your feedback, how that works for you.

        HowTo: Replace PIR Sensor with a RCWL-0516 Microwave Sensor

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        • S Offline
          sdetweil @Fozi
          last edited by

          @Fozi nice update… very clear and helpful

          Sam

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          • cowboysdudeC Offline
            cowboysdude Module Developer
            last edited by

            Once again excellent work! I love the trimmer it’s a great idea for those with limited space!
            For some strange reason I have left a gap at the top of my mirror that fits what I build perfectly!
            I wanted a bigger mirror so I bought the glass oversized and centered the monitor in it :)

            This, accidently, left me enough room to fit this in perfectly!

            So what I did was design a “T” with a whole in it to mount the sensor and install it inside the box.
            I am a contractor so having aluminum tape was not a hard thing for me to come up with.

            Thank you @Fozi for this entire project! Allows me to get rid of the ugly PIR sensor outside the mirror and place a sensor behind the scenes but works as intended.

            So for me option 1 works great! This won’t work for everyone but in my case perfect!
            [Have NOT installed it in the mirror yet but will today]

            Here’s the pictures.

            Box

            0_1575824339532_20191208_114523.jpg

            3d PLA Printed ‘T’
            0_1575824367750_20191208_114535.jpg

            Fits inside of box
            0_1575824390662_20191208_114628.jpg

            Picture of sensor on ‘T’
            0_1575824407696_20191208_114553.jpg

            Once again, Thank you @Fozi !!!

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            • Mykle1M Offline
              Mykle1 Project Sponsor Module Developer @Fozi
              last edited by Mykle1

              @Fozi said in UPDATE: Replaced my PIR-Sensor with a Doppler Microwave Sensor.:

              sooner than expected I modified the sensor with a trimmer resistor.
              For that I also updated my initial post and enhanced the tutorial, where now both options are described.

              Dude, (can I call you dude?) although I don’t use a sensor (I have a cam on my first mirror w/Pi) I appreciate what you’ve done here. I’ll say it again (in different words), I think this is the death knell of the PIR sensor. So, thanks. :thumbsup:

              Peace!

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              • FoziF Offline
                Fozi Project Sponsor @cowboysdude
                last edited by

                @cowboysdude I‘m totally happy that I cold help and to receive so positive feedback! I love it when a plan works!😁 Thanks!
                This T-shaped holder, is it 3D-printed or an off-the-shelf available part? It‘s totally cool!

                HowTo: Replace PIR Sensor with a RCWL-0516 Microwave Sensor

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                • FoziF Offline
                  Fozi Project Sponsor @Mykle1
                  last edited by

                  @Mykle1 said

                  Dude, (can I call you dude?) although I don’t use a sensor (I have a cam on my first mirror w/Pi) I appreciate what you’ve done here. I’ll say it again (in different words), I think this is the death knell of the PIR sensor. So, thanks. :thumbsup:

                  Sure, call me Dude, if you like😁

                  Let‘s get the warts outta here!🤣 and thanks for the overwhelming feedback!

                  HowTo: Replace PIR Sensor with a RCWL-0516 Microwave Sensor

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                  • cowboysdudeC Offline
                    cowboysdude Module Developer
                    last edited by cowboysdude

                    Ok so here’s my final and it’s working perfectly! I tried it in various spots.

                    Thanks to @Fozi again…now there’s a very complete forum topic that anyone can follow!!

                    I added 2 additional layers of aluminum tape… there are no untaped spaces on the box anywhere… then moved it to the back of the cabinet and now you have to walk up to it to make it come on… PERFECT!! :)

                    I tried behind the glass… too sensitive
                    I tried taped to the back of the monitor … too sensitive.
                    Moved to the back of the cabinet which makes it about 4" away from the glass… BINGO!!

                    [PS… don’t mind my ugly wiring LOL]

                    0_1575835456018_rsz_final.jpg

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                    • FoziF Offline
                      Fozi Project Sponsor @cowboysdude
                      last edited by

                      @cowboysdude Great News, excellent!👍🏻

                      HowTo: Replace PIR Sensor with a RCWL-0516 Microwave Sensor

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                      • lavolp3L Offline
                        lavolp3 Module Developer @cowboysdude
                        last edited by

                        @cowboysdude
                        am I seeing it right that also the side of the case looking at you is aluminium taped?
                        So the whole case is taped in your case?

                        How to troubleshoot modules
                        MMM-soccer v2, MMM-AVStock

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                        • lavolp3L Offline
                          lavolp3 Module Developer
                          last edited by

                          @cowboysdude @Fozi Guys, which module are you using for the recognition?
                          I can’t get neither MMM-PIR-Sensor nor MMM-PIR to work currently. Both have the same problem with epoll which is installed via the node module “onoff”, if I see correctly.
                          What are you using?
                          THe mirror won’t load with any of the modules activated giving the error

                           The module '/home/pi/MagicMirror/modules/MMM-PIR/node_modules/onoff/node_modules/epoll/build/Release/epoll.node'
                          was compiled against a different Node.js version using
                          NODE_MODULE_VERSION 67. This version of Node.js requires
                          NODE_MODULE_VERSION 64. Please try re-compiling or re-installing
                          the module (for instance, using `npm rebuild` or `npm install`).
                          

                          @cowboysdude I remember you’re using your own script?
                          @Fozi you?

                          node v 11.4.0
                          npm v 6.13.0

                          How to troubleshoot modules
                          MMM-soccer v2, MMM-AVStock

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                          • cowboysdudeC Offline
                            cowboysdude Module Developer @lavolp3
                            last edited by cowboysdude

                            @lavolp3 I use my own for that… it’s not a module but it’s right here.

                            https://github.com/cowboysdude/Pir-Sensor

                            Easy to follow :)

                            The box is just a cardboard box taped with alum duct tape. I am however waiting for my trimmer resister so I can tune it down and take it out of the box. I only want the mirror to come on when someone walks up to it…say like 2 ft. away… so it doesn’t come on when I walk by the bathroom doorway… looks more like a pro thing :)

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                            • FoziF Offline
                              Fozi Project Sponsor @lavolp3
                              last edited by Fozi

                              @lavolp3 I use MMM-PIR-Sensor without any modifications. Are you using @paviro master oder any other fork of the module?
                              As I see, you have more recent npm/node versions installed.
                              I am still on node 10.17.0 / npm 6.11.3.

                              Edit: I’d recommend to try the script from @cowboysdude . It is robust against any node.js stuff as it written in python.

                              HowTo: Replace PIR Sensor with a RCWL-0516 Microwave Sensor

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                                • FoziF Offline
                                  Fozi Project Sponsor @Norton
                                  last edited by

                                  @Norton said in UPDATE: Replaced my PIR-Sensor with a Doppler Microwave Sensor.:

                                  It is important to replace the PIR sensor with a Doppler Microwave Sensor.

                                  This spam bot is sooo right!:face_with_tears_of_joy:

                                  HowTo: Replace PIR Sensor with a RCWL-0516 Microwave Sensor

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                                  • B Offline
                                    bachoo786 @Fozi
                                    last edited by

                                    @Fozi Hi
                                    Can i solder pin 1 and 2 of the resistor to the radar sensor? I accidentally broke pin no 3.

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                                    • FoziF Offline
                                      Fozi Project Sponsor @bachoo786
                                      last edited by

                                      @bachoo786 yes, you can also use pin 1 and 2.

                                      An example:
                                      The max value of the resistor (Rmax) is between pin 1 and 3.
                                      Between pin 1 and 2 is the restitor value R1, and
                                      between pin 2 and 3 is the resistor value R2.

                                      Rmax = R1 + R2. (or R1=Rmax - R2, resp, R2=Rmax - R1)

                                      Thus, you can use both options (R1 pin 1/2 or R2 pin 2/3).

                                      HowTo: Replace PIR Sensor with a RCWL-0516 Microwave Sensor

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                                      • B Offline
                                        bachoo786 @Fozi
                                        last edited by

                                        @Fozi so I got a new radar sensor set the resistance to 80ohms which would give me around 40 to 50cm detection distance. I am using @cowboysdude script.

                                        My mm is running on my rpi 4b 4g and at present its connected to my TV. However the rada sensor is not working as the script is meant to detect motion and if there is no motion it would turn the tv off after 20 seconds. I tried many times but have failed.

                                        Any ideas? Or maybe my sensor is not working. Is there a simple script that I could test the sensor?

                                        Thanks.

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                                        • FoziF Offline
                                          Fozi Project Sponsor @bachoo786
                                          last edited by

                                          @bachoo786 First re-check if the sensor is cabled correctly to the GPIO as described in my tutorial. Further check if the resistor is soldered correctly to the sensor. Maybe there is a “cold soldering joint”. Sounds trivial, but the devil is a squirrel (old german saying 0_1578041639036_41a3b8fa-8272-448b-8e93-36c6fb58809d-image.png )
                                          Then, extend the detection range to the max, to check if the sensor is generally OK (200 Ohms) and re-run @cowboysdude script. If this works, then reduce the resistor step by step until you reach the desired detection range. Theoretically 80 Ohms should provide a range of 40-50 cm, but from my experience this may vary strongly as the resistor value does not correspond linearly to the detection range.

                                          HowTo: Replace PIR Sensor with a RCWL-0516 Microwave Sensor

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                                          • B Offline
                                            bachoo786 @Fozi
                                            last edited by

                                            @Fozi ok will do thanks.

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