@mumblebaj Our stuff was industrial grade and we had issues with the level sensor but related to day/night temperature & Sun impacting gas. but biggest problem with level sensor was related to it being a cylinder mounted horizontally…

An inch of drop at top of sideways cylinder a lot less than an inch of drop across middle of cylinder so engineers had fun plotting that curve

@mumblebaj What is a “Gas Geyser”?

Another easy monitoring option is to put the tank on a scale. Track weight as % Full.
Not long before I retired we put in a remote pumping station that consisted of 2 3-phase pumps, 3-phase generator that ran on natural gas. Tank for gas had resistance type level sensor.
Used telemetry that sent us a common fault alarm and sent the local gas vendor live level indication.

@sdetweil I’m not going to lie and say “My thoughts exactly” but I have a much better understanding now of the how and why.
So, boot from SSD that is plugged in to bottom of Pi but to minimizes writes to that card, have a jumbo drive to store your work on.

I find myself with a spare SSD and an old but faithful external hard drive.
If I want to load a gazillion pictures to either the SSD or Hard Drive.
Which one is the better choice? Short term, long term.

I want to make a personal calendar that occupies 1/2 the screen and a scrolling picture viewer that occupies the other half. Pretty simple as MM’s go but the picture drive will see activity 24/7/365

I hear stories every day about SSD’s biting the dirt. Admittedly they all seem to be micro-SSD Chips typical of what one burns the Pi OS to and not larger storage based hardware.
Curious about peoples thoughts/experiences.
Both have been long bought and paid for so cost not really in the equation.

@sdetweil How can I send you a PM/DM about a question I have.
Not bad, not good, just a question that I have that is probably not for the MM community writ large.

@Dracarys I want to dig in to sensor projects myself. I looked at that DHT sensor and I think it is using SPI so maybe other sensors using same interface might be amenable to using module as a building block.

@Dracarys As in updating to 2.24.0?
Those are the best kind.

@sdetweil That’s up to you all. You can’t do away with the sentence. Sentence should say ALT+Space Bar and you need to validate install per instructions to confirm. Do away with the sentence then everyone trying to build one on their own is stuck the first time they want to flip back and forth between different views.
All I can say regarding ALT is that I have built several MM’s, used ALT per the doc and it worked up until v 2.23.0.

Where does that block of Electron.js code exist. It absolutely exists somewhere.
You and some of the other folks that maintain Magic Mirror get down in the weeds with this stuff and I’m like I’m missing something because it seems like this question should be as answerable as the thousand other questions that float across the top of the forum but it isn’t.

I know maintaining documentation is one of the most miserable tasks out there, or at least it is in my opinion.
At least it was for me when I had to do it. I’d get an assignment to do some documentation and I would think “What did I do to make you mad at me.”

But MM is designed for average Joe who decides they want to take a crack at building one to be able to do it with little to no help so the docs need to be correct

I have installed PiOS so many times in last few weeks, NEVER using VNC
I can not make ALT+Spacebar work. I’m doing it right now.

@syedkhadri Is the underlying Pi OS desktop also stretched? Your question is way too broad. Rephrase your question and provide some detail.

@Fifteen15Studios When the price of Pi’s come down, more people will start buying Pi’s.
As the volume of 4B sales increase, the subset of purchasers installing MM software onto these new Pi’s is going to increase and probably significantly.
I never said it was hardware based.
I said the decreasing price of Pi’s will show up in the number of complaints.
I was the one who originated the thread.

When Pi 4B’s are selling for ridiculously high prices that means less people are going to buy them. How many $200.00 Pi 4B’s did you or members of this forum buy?
You have this demographic of people that buy 4B’s, Pi’s are used for a multitude of different projects. A subset of 4B purchasers build Magic Mirrors.
When the price of Pi’s get stupid high, less people are going to buy 4B’s across the board. Consequently the subset of 4B purchasers who paid $200.00 for a 4B to build MM’s probably tailed off to near zero.
As Pi 4B price decreases, sales will increase across the board. That subset of Pi purchasers that are MM builders will start increasing.
As MM builds increase, since the problem hasn’t been solved as far as I know, more people will start complaining “ALT doesn’t work”.

In that economic respect the price of Pi’s will increase the number of people complaining.
I stand by my economic statement.